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Author: WhiteHatBobby Big red star, 1000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 196899  
Subject: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/23/2006 8:26 AM
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The most gruesome evidence I knew came true.

Just a day after meeting Terri Schiavo's sister Suzanne Vitadomo (pictured with me), I heard a report on Fox (see above) that Michael Schiavo applied for a marriage licence to marry the woman he wants to marry to the extent he sued to kill his first wife to do. There were so many coverups that it makes you wonder what actually happened.

Disgusting.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,182427,00.html
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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/23/2006 9:53 AM
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Let God do the judging. :-)

Charles

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/23/2006 10:03 AM
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There were so many coverups that it makes you wonder what actually happened.


I know what you mean. I can't believe that Frist never retracted his diagnosis-by-video after it was shown that Schiavo was blind. Funny how the media never followed up on that.

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Author: JLC Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 128482 of 196899
Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/23/2006 1:04 PM
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I know what you mean. I can't believe that Frist never retracted his diagnosis-by-video...

Frist violated one of the main tenets of diagnosing a patient, you need to lay hands on them. That was pounded into our heads in medical school, can't diagnose over the phone (nor video).

JLC

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Author: Chart59 Three stars, 500 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 128489 of 196899
Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/23/2006 4:27 PM
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I know it!

"There were so many coverups that it makes you wonder what actually happened."

Yup,

Fox news IS disgusting!! Biased and outrageous.

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/23/2006 5:06 PM
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"Frist violated one of the main tenets of diagnosing a patient, you need to lay hands on them. That was pounded into our heads in medical school, can't diagnose over the phone (nor video)."

Don't radiologists do that all that time? I can't recall being touched by a radiologist. Even the x-ray work itself is done by a technician or nurse. Actually, during my last bad fracture I didn't even see the specialist whose office I was in. The physician's assistant did all the work and then went to confer with the physician. She was pretty sharp, so I didn't feel cheated, but I guess both the specialist and the radiologist were no-shows.

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/23/2006 5:48 PM
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pace Our Lord---
Fox - that Herod!

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Author: maracle Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 128496 of 196899
Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/23/2006 7:09 PM
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Don't radiologists do that all that time? I can't recall being touched by a radiologist.

Isn't the difference obvious?

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/23/2006 7:36 PM
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The most gruesome evidence I knew came true.

Just a day after meeting Terri Schiavo's sister Suzanne Vitadomo (pictured with me), I heard a report on Fox (see above) that Michael Schiavo applied for a marriage licence to marry the woman he wants to marry to the extent he sued to kill his first wife to do. There were so many coverups that it makes you wonder what actually happened.

Disgusting.


What are you saying?

k


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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/23/2006 9:06 PM
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I could never understand why he did not just annull or divorce Terri, leave her in the care of his parents and go on and marry this woman and get on with his life.

It just didn't make sense.

LuceLu

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Author: khalou Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 128507 of 196899
Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/23/2006 9:37 PM
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I could never understand why he did not just annull or divorce Terri, leave her in the care of his parents and go on and marry this woman and get on with his life.

It just didn't make sense.


There is only one reason he wouldn't do so.

Can you guess what is might be?

k


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Author: JLC Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 128512 of 196899
Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/23/2006 11:42 PM
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I could never understand why he did not just annul or divorce Terri, leave her in the care of his parents and go on and marry this woman and get on with his life.

It just didn't make sense.

LuceLu


Insurance money. The cynics say he wanted the settlement money. His side says he needed it to defray the cost of care.

As far as radiologist, I guess their version of laying on of hands would be looking at the film/pictures. Although in the olden days, think Marcus Welby, a clinic correlation was needed. Thus, seeing the patient.

JLC


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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 1:10 AM
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khalou:

<<<<I could never understand why he did not just annull or divorce Terri, leave her in the care of his parents and go on and marry this woman and get on with his life.>>>>

"It just didn't make sense.

There is only one reason he wouldn't do so.

Can you guess what is might be?"


Because he loved her and wanted to see her wishes carried out, instead of abandoning her to her parents, who would follow their wishes and not hers.

Certainly you cannot think it was about the money. At least one of the guardian ad litems or other court appointed persons reported that the money was spent on her care.

JAFO
(surprised that khalou would be as cynical as the post appears to be)



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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 3:02 AM
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There were so many coverups that it makes you wonder what actually happened.

Keep your nose out of other people's personal business.

Thanks,
Erik

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 6:50 AM
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Insurance money. The cynics say he wanted the settlement money. His side says he needed it to defray the cost of care.

If I am not mistaken, at the time it was said there was no money left.

LuceLu

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 7:47 AM
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That was pounded into our heads in medical school, can't diagnose over the phone (nor video).

Didn't they also tell you that 85% of diagnoses are made by history?

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 8:05 AM
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There have been several times in my life that I've had the opportunity of intimately knowing the truth behind a major news story. Each time, very little of the truth was conveyed by the press. In fact, the news stories were fundamentally wrong, and misleading!

It's interesting to watch people argue so passionately over something they know next to nothing about.

TDT

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Author: alchook Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 128519 of 196899
Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 8:11 AM
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There have been several times in my life that I've had the opportunity of intimately knowing the truth behind a major news story. Each time, very little of the truth was conveyed by the press. In fact, the news stories were fundamentally wrong, and misleading!

It's interesting to watch people argue so passionately over something they know next to nothing about.

TDT


Some people argued passionately that the decision in this case should be left to those not getting their information from news stories.

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 8:17 AM
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(surprised that khalou would be as cynical as the post appears to be)

I think you provided the answer khalou was looking for. It is funny how two people can read the same post (khalou's) and come to different conclusions.

IF




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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 9:09 AM
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(surprised that khalou would be as cynical as the post appears to be)

I think you provided the answer khalou was looking for. It is funny how two people can read the same post (khalou's) and come to different conclusions.


You are correct. :o)

k



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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 9:40 AM
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That was pounded into our heads in medical school, can't diagnose over the phone (nor video).

Didn't they also tell you that 85% of diagnoses are made by history?


I don't know where you get the 85% from, but we were told "listen to the patient and they will eventually tell you the diagnosis". However, to confirm it, you still need to lay hands.

For example, someone can tell me they arrived at my office via motorized transportation, had four wheels, etc., etc., etc. But until I step outside and see for myself, I won't know if its a truck, a car, or an ATV. In other words, it is possible for the patient to be prejudiced in the information they give you, thus leading to an incorrect diagnosis by history alone.

JLC


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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 10:08 AM
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TDT: There have been several times in my life that I've had the opportunity of intimately knowing the truth behind a major news story. Each time, very little of the truth was conveyed by the press. In fact, the news stories were fundamentally wrong, and misleading!

It's interesting to watch people argue so passionately over something they know next to nothing about.




I've had the same experiences, and I agree completely that what gets reported in the press is often not the whole story.

However, in the Schiavo case, quite a few judges had the chance to gather all the information and testimony in this case, and every single time, the courts ruled in favor of her husband.


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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 11:12 AM
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TDT: There have been several times in my life that I've had the opportunity of intimately knowing the truth behind a major news story. Each time, very little of the truth was conveyed by the press. In fact, the news stories were fundamentally wrong, and misleading!

It's interesting to watch people argue so passionately over something they know next to nothing about.



FMNH: I've had the same experiences, and I agree completely that what gets reported in the press is often not the whole story.

However, in the Schiavo case, quite a few judges had the chance to gather all the information and testimony in this case, and every single time, the courts ruled in favor of her husband.


That's a fact. Personally, I think the controversy itself is what's really interesting about this case.

For example, I'm a right-to-life kinda guy. But at the same time, I see quite a bit of room for grey in the areas of abortion as well as euthanasia. I grew up with a profoundly disabled older sister, who was in a condition very similar to that which Schiavo seems to have been in. We (correctly, I'm confident) never would have exercised exceptional means to prolong her life. In situations like this I believe we should do what we can to minimize suffering, even if the administration of drugs has the unintended effect of shortening the life of the individual. I believe the intent to be central to the moral issue (Matt 12), and prolonging life is not always the greatest good. So I find the desire to prolong life at all cost more than a little insensitive. To me, the Christian ethic has far more to do with merciful charity than with presuming to hold the keys to temporal existence.

At the same time, I'm equally fascinated by the other camp, particularly those who do not believe life continues beyond physical death. Assuming Schiavo was dead, and if death is the end, then why does it now matter what Schiavo wanted? She is annihilated. If keeping a dead body breathing by artificial means brings comfort to the family, why were so many people so determined to rob them of that comfort (however morbid or misguided it might have been)? Aren't the desires of the living far more relevant than those of the dead? I would think a truly enlightened atheist would feel completely ambiguous towards the fate of a dead person's dead body, just as a truly committed pro-choice person would feel completely ambiguous towards the fate of a fetus. Just as I would think a truly enlightened atheist would feel ambiguous pity towards those of faith…yet so many atheists seem bound to destroy what obviously brings comfort to so many.* If it helps my 5-year-old sleep through the night to live under the delusion that there aren't really monsters in the world, what kind of person would I be if I were to go out of my way to show him that, yes, there really are?

I don't really know what to make of it all, but it is interesting how people have divided. It seems to me that in our spirited opposition of one another we have both departed from authentic expressions of what we claim to believe.

TDT

*Anticipating the argument let me quickly add that I completely support the atheist argument that the abuse of religion to inflict violence and suffering must be opposed. However, there are many peaceful expressions of faith that have had demonstrably positive impacts on societies throughout history.

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 12:02 PM
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Aren't the desires of the living far more relevant than those of the dead?

What was the desire of the legal next-of-kin?

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 12:07 PM
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Aren't the desires of the living far more relevant than those of the dead?

What was the desire of the legal next-of-kin?

Did you hear that whizzing sound? It was the whole point of my post zinging by your head.

TDT

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 12:09 PM
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For example, someone can tell me they arrived at my office via motorized transportation, had four wheels, etc., etc., etc. But until I step outside and see for myself, I won't know if its a truck, a car, or an ATV. In other words, it is possible for the patient to be prejudiced in the information they give you, thus leading to an incorrect diagnosis by history alone.

I got up this morning, looked out the window, and saw the ground covered with a white substance. When I stepped outside I noticed the white substance to be powdery and very cold to the touch. I put a bunch of it into a glass but when I checked it again after taking a shower there was nothing in the glass but water.

Any idea as to what is going on here?


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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 12:16 PM
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Did you hear that whizzing sound? It was the whole point of my post zinging by your head.

TDT


I don't think so.

You seemed perplexed by what you referred to as "the other camp."

The other camp felt that the issue should be decided by the legal next-of-kin, who, in this case, wanted the feeding tube pulled.

Why does that fascinate you?




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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 1:25 PM
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"There have been several times in my life that I've had the opportunity of intimately knowing the truth behind a major news story. Each time, very little of the truth was conveyed by the press. In fact, the news stories were fundamentally wrong, and misleading!"

Ditto for me. In both cases, the press had only the rough outline of the event reported correctly, and failed badly in the details. In one case, I heard an initial account from a foreign news agency in a friendly developing nation, which, as it turned out in the end, offered a nearly 100% correct report. The reports in the big US media, which you would like to think would be more reliable than a small developing nation's media, were pretty far off. To their credit, they eventually reported the story correct, but it took a while and it probably wasn't noticed by most people.

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 1:28 PM
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"However, in the Schiavo case, quite a few judges had the chance to gather all the information and testimony in this case, and every single time, the courts ruled in favor of her husband."

And so it is comforting to know that judges always act in a manner above politics, particularly in high-profile cases where their rulings would surely be examined should they ever be appointed to higher legal offices. :)

Sarcasm aside, I give a little bit of credibility to that defense, but sadly not as much as it ought to carry.



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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 2:20 PM
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Did you hear that whizzing sound? It was the whole point of my post zinging by your head.

I don't think so.

You seemed perplexed by what you referred to as "the other camp."

The other camp felt that the issue should be decided by the legal next-of-kin, who, in this case, wanted the feeding tube pulled.

Why does that fascinate you?


I thought I made it clear that I'm perplexed by both camps.

I think the issue (including whether the next-of-kin had a legitimate input in this case) should have been decided by the courts, and it was. So I'm perfectly satisfied with the outcome.

My post was about the intensity of the debate.

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 3:17 PM
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And so it is comforting to know that judges always act in a manner above politics, particularly in high-profile cases where their rulings would surely be examined should they ever be appointed to higher legal offices. :)

All of the people in a position to do appointments to a higher court (Jeb and George Bush) wanted them to rule the opposite way. Which sort of lends even more credence to their decisions.

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 3:22 PM
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I thought I made it clear that I'm perplexed by both camps.

You did. I just can't figure out why.

I think the issue (including whether the next-of-kin had a legitimate input in this case) should have been decided by the courts, and it was. So I'm perfectly satisfied with the outcome.

That's what one camp maintained all along.

Why does that perplex you?

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 4:24 PM
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I thought I made it clear that I'm perplexed by both camps.

You did. I just can't figure out why.

I think the issue (including whether the next-of-kin had a legitimate input in this case) should have been decided by the courts, and it was. So I'm perfectly satisfied with the outcome.

That's what one camp maintained all along.

Why does that perplex you?


Hang on a minute...I'm going to go back and read my post again...


<<<For example, I'm a right-to-life kinda guy. But at the same time, I see quite a bit of room for grey in the areas of abortion as well as euthanasia. I grew up with a profoundly disabled older sister, who was in a condition very similar to that which Schiavo seems to have been in. We (correctly, I'm confident) never would have exercised exceptional means to prolong her life. In situations like this I believe we should do what we can to minimize suffering, even if the administration of drugs has the unintended effect of shortening the life of the individual. I believe the intent to be central to the moral issue (Matt 12), and prolonging life is not always the greatest good. So I find the desire to prolong life at all cost more than a little insensitive. To me, the Christian ethic has far more to do with merciful charity than with presuming to hold the keys to temporal existence.

At the same time, I'm equally fascinated by the other camp, particularly those who do not believe life continues beyond physical death. Assuming Schiavo was dead, and if death is the end, then why does it now matter what Schiavo wanted? She is annihilated. If keeping a dead body breathing by artificial means brings comfort to the family, why were so many people so determined to rob them of that comfort (however morbid or misguided it might have been)? Aren't the desires of the living far more relevant than those of the dead? I would think a truly enlightened atheist would feel completely ambiguous towards the fate of a dead person's dead body, just as a truly committed pro-choice person would feel completely ambiguous towards the fate of a fetus. Just as I would think a truly enlightened atheist would feel ambiguous pity towards those of faith…yet so many atheists seem bound to destroy what obviously brings comfort to so many.* If it helps my 5-year-old sleep through the night to live under the delusion that there aren't really monsters in the world, what kind of person would I be if I were to go out of my way to show him that, yes, there really are?

I don't really know what to make of it all, but it is interesting how people have divided. It seems to me that in our spirited opposition of one another we have both departed from authentic expressions of what we claim to believe.>>>

I seem to be saying that I'm perplexed by the fact that the Christian side of this debate seems to be saying so little about mercy. And I also seem to be saying that the zeal of those on the other side is hard to account for. If you believe that Terri was dead, then Michael's rights are really no more compelling than an argument over, say, cremation versus burial. So why would atheists, for example, care so much about this that a sarcastic post from feedmeNOWhuman would be one of the top 15 rec'd posts in the history of a board that has more than 120,000 individual posts? That's truly remarkable!! Don't you think?

You don't seem to share my fascination. I suppose you have a clear explanation why the atheist community would seem to derive such satisfaction in coming to the rescue of Michael Schiavo? (I certainly don't have a clear explanation why the Christian community is so rarely committed to charity and mercy versus becoming entangled in such debates.

...then again, maybe I do.)

TDT

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 4:34 PM
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If you believe that Terri was dead, then Michael's rights are really no more compelling than an argument over, say, cremation versus burial.

Exactly.

And if the Republican Party decided to engage in political grandstanding by taking it upon itself to decide whether Terri would be buried or cremated I'd be equally incensed.

Again, I don't see why this is so perplexing.

But it explains the whizzing sound.

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 4:43 PM
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And if the Republican Party decided to engage in political grandstanding by taking it upon itself to decide whether Terri would be buried or cremated I'd be equally incensed.

OK, I understand now. I just didn't realize it was purely a political issue. I also didn't realize that there were 80+ Democrats lurking on this board. (Still a little perplexing--"why so many democrats???")

TDT

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I also didn't realize that there were 80+ Democrats lurking on this board.

TDT


How did you come up with this number?
What do you base it on?
and why?

md (curious to know)


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I also didn't realize that there were 80+ Democrats lurking on this board.

TDT

How did you come up with this number?
What do you base it on?
and why?

md (curious to know)


Alchook's theory of the intensity of interest in Michael Schiavo's case as a reaction to Republican grandstanding, which I applied as an explanation for feedmeNOWhuman's recent pro-Michael post having received in excess of 85 rec's, placing it in the top .01% of all the posts in the history of this board.

TDT

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OK, I understand now. I just didn't realize it was purely a political issue.

Wow!

So you missed all posturing by Frist, the emergency Congressional sessions, and the intervention by those who call themselves advocates of small government in what should be a personal, family decision.

I also didn't realize that there were 80+ Democrats lurking on this board.

I don't know that Democrats are the only ones appalled by sanctimonious hypocrisy and the exploitation of personal tragedy in the pursuit of political partisanship.

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/24/2006 6:00 PM
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Alchook's theory of the intensity of interest in Michael Schiavo's case as a reaction to Republican grandstanding, which I applied as an explanation for feedmeNOWhuman's recent pro-Michael post having received in excess of 85 rec's, placing it in the top .01% of all the posts in the history of this board.

TDT


Which means what?

Again, in simple language why do you assume that there are 80+ Democrats lurking on this board?

Are you saying that only Democrats would rec FeedMeNowHuman's post?

Exactly what are you saying...please spell it out clearly and avoid jello nonsense like you just posted.

Thanks

md


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Exactly what are you saying...please spell it out clearly and avoid jello nonsense like you just posted.

Thanks


TDT

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TDT

Exactly what are you saying...exactly how do you come to the conclusions that there are 80+ Democrats lurking on this board based on the response to the post in question?

Thanks


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" I would think a truly enlightened atheist would feel completely ambiguous towards the fate of a dead person's dead body, just as a truly committed pro-choice person would feel completely ambiguous towards the fate of a fetus."

I think you better rethink this because it is silly.

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The most gruesome evidence I knew came true.

Just a day after meeting Terri Schiavo's sister Suzanne Vitadomo (pictured with me), I heard a report on Fox (see above) that Michael Schiavo applied for a marriage licence to marry the woman he wants to marry to the extent he sued to kill his first wife to do. There were so many coverups that it makes you wonder what actually happened.

Disgusting.


Speaking of disgusting:

* Michael Schiavo received numerous death threats
* Michael Schiavo's sister-in law received a death threat
* Judge Greer received a death threat
* Several Florida legislators received threats

The people who made the death threats probably considers themselves Christians eventhough the bible clearly says "Thou Shalt not kill". The real question is; why did the mainstream Christian community in America not show their disgust in how their so called brethren behaved in this case. They gave the entire Christian community a bad name in this affair. They claimed they wanted to save Terri Schiavo, but could apparently care less that other people in the case had their lives threatened.

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Subject: Re: Michael Schiavo Marries The Other Woman Date: 1/25/2006 7:46 AM
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It just didn't make sense.

LuceLu
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He claimed that Terri had asked him not to keep her alive if she was brain dead. If my parents asked me the same then I would fight with my siblings to do as they asked. I have already told my siblings to harvest my organs and donate them to those who need them, I would be through with them in that case. I assume his claim is true so I see no reason to be judgmental against him.

I think her husband showed a lot of dedication to Terri. He was with her most of the last week of her life. The efforts to treat terri are well documented, when the doctors had no hope, her husband attempted to carry out her wishes and her family brought the courts into the matter.
Whatever your wishes put them into writing!


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There is only one reason he wouldn't do so.

Can you guess what is might be?
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I can think of 2:
1) He loved her and could not abandon her.
2) He did not want to have to pay alimony.


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