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Author: SeaPhantom Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 176840  
Subject: Miss America vs Miss Afghanistan Date: 10/20/2001 10:24 PM
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On the left is Katie Harmon, Miss America,
wearing the swimsuit she chose for the competition.
On the right is a typical Afghan girl, wearing the heavy smothering
burqua as required by the oppressive Taliban regime.

Miss America is a junior at Portland State University,
hoping to eventually get a Master's degree in Bioethics.
Miss Afghanistan is forbidden from receiving any education at all,
and cannot read or write.

Miss America has worked as a lab assistant at both the
Oregon Health Sciences University and the University of Puget Sound.
Miss Afghanistan is forbidden from working.

Miss America's father is an engineer. Her mother is a teacher.
Miss Afghanistan's father was shot by a gang of Taliban militants.
Her mother begs for bread scraps since she cannot work or remarry.

Miss America wowed the judges by singing
a Puccini aria, "O Mio Babbino Caro".
Miss Afghanistan is forbidden from singing
or even listening to music of any kind.

Miss America will be traveling the nation nonstop during her reign.
Miss Afghanistan cannot leave her house without a male family member,
cannot drive, and cannot be out after dark.

Miss America is an advocate for breast cancer research.
Miss Afghanistan cannot be treated by a male doctor, and for all
practical purposes has no access to medical treatment of any kind.

Miss America can date, marry, or divorce anyone she chooses.
Miss Afghanistan will be stoned to death if caught in the company of a
male outside of her family. She is likely to be sold into an arranged
marriage
to a man who already has two wives.

Miss America wears sunscreen on the beach to keep from burning.
Miss Afghanistan cannot live in a house with windows
unless they are painted black.
Since she must wear a burqua outside, her pale
translucent skin has not seen a ray of sunlight in years.

Miss America could have been disqualified
if her swimsuit did not meet pageant standards.
Miss Afghanistan can be flogged
if the holes in the mesh covering her face are too large.

Miss America will decide how many children, if any, she wants to have.
Miss Afghanistan will be pregnant 3-4 times more often than Miss America.
Unfortunately, her babies are 25 times more likely to die in the first
year.
One out of four will not see their 5th birthday.

Miss America is majoring in speech communications at PSU.
Miss Afghanistan is forbidden from speaking in public.

Miss America is 21.
Since the U.S. life expectancy for women is 80,
she's still a very young woman.
Miss Afghanistan is also 21.
But since the life expectancy for an Afghan woman is 43,
next year she will be "over-the-hill".
(Besides having a shockingly short life expectancy overall,
Afghanistan is one of the only countries in the world
in which women have a shorter life expectancy than men)

Miss America is a beautiful, intelligent woman and everyone knows it.
Miss Afghanistan could be a beautiful, intelligent woman, ...
but nobody will ever know it.

God Bless Miss America
God Help Miss Afghanistan, ....


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Author: tmidiot Big red star, 1000 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 10843 of 176840
Subject: Re: Miss America vs Miss Afghanistan Date: 10/21/2001 5:19 PM
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Almost all of the Taliban policies toward women are monstrous, but there is one practice that is usually lumped in with all the rest which may actually be quite humanitarian. In a culture which lacks basic dental hygiene and care, and where cosmetics are an unknown luxury, it could well be that the overwhelming majority of women are not very attractive. Perhaps there is an advatange to these ladies if a lot is left to the imagination. If the practice was voluntary, then of course those who were attractive would want to display their charms, and if a woman chose to keep her face covered it could be assumed that she was doing so for a good reason. When it is a universal requirement, then at least the men are kept guessing. Perhaps their is enough of a sisterhood, that the good looking ones don't mind so much going along with it as a charitable gesture towards those not so fortunately endowed.

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Author: Spyneyes Big red star, 1000 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 10849 of 176840
Subject: Re: Miss America vs Miss Afghanistan Date: 10/21/2001 5:59 PM
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Miss America is a beautiful, intelligent woman and everyone knows it.
Miss Afghanistan could be a beautiful, intelligent woman, ...
but nobody will ever know it.

God Bless Miss America
God Help Miss Afghanistan, ...."


Excellent post SeaPhantom!

Thanks for sharing it with us.

Did you write this?

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Author: SeaPhantom Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 10852 of 176840
Subject: Re: Miss America vs Miss Afghanistan Date: 10/21/2001 6:29 PM
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No, I didn't write that Miss America/Miss Afghanistan "ditty" and the original email I received came with a .jpg file attached to it too. Couldn't find it on line and therefore couldn't link to it.

But here is something that I did find.

http://citizens.reagan.com/right/WSGil/talibansingles.jpg

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Subject: Re: Miss America vs Miss Afghanistan Date: 10/21/2001 10:32 PM
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"In a culture which lacks basic dental hygiene and care..... it could well be that the overwhelming majority of women are not very attractive"

Congratulations on having just won my personal nomination for the most uncultured and uneducated post I have seen so far on any boards anywhere. Looks like your moniker is not just a coincidence!

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Author: tmidiot Big red star, 1000 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 10886 of 176840
Subject: Re: Miss America vs Miss Afghanistan Date: 10/22/2001 1:20 AM
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badsin writes:

"Congratulations on having just won my personal nomination for the most uncultured and uneducated post I have seen so far on any boards anywhere. Looks like your moniker is not just a coincidence!"

At least when *I* respond to a post, I address the specific points raised, and do not resort to name calling.

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Author: tmidiot Big red star, 1000 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 10930 of 176840
Subject: Re: Miss America vs Miss Afghanistan Date: 10/22/2001 12:52 PM
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At this point in time, there are 7 recs for badsin's post versus 1 rec for my reply. Should we conclude from this that there are seven times as many people on this discussion board who approve of name-calling, as there are those who are interested in rational discussion? Maybe instead of a "discussion board" it should be re-designated a "name-calling board".

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Subject: Re: Miss America vs Miss Afghanistan Date: 10/22/2001 1:32 PM
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"At this point in time, there are 7 recs for badsin's post versus 1 rec for my reply. Should we conclude from this that there are seven times as many people on this discussion board who approve of name-calling, as there are those who are interested in rational discussion? Maybe instead of a "discussion board" it should be re-designated a "name-calling board".

Lighten up, and drink some decaf, will you? The original post was a tongue-in-cheek remark; accept it as such.

~jscott


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