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Subject: Re: Do NOT apply for a Capital One credit card!! Date: 8/27/2004 3:22 PM
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No. Each of the bureau has at least two different FICO products presently. "Empirica" and "Beacon" are the old ones from two of the bureaus (I forget which goes with which right now)

Fair Issac has come up with a new formula that is supposed to be better at differentiating at the high and low ends of the spectrum. That one is being called "Next Gen FICO" by all three bureaus. (I know this, the company I work for is still deciding which FICO to use)

As consumers, you get the "Next Gen FICO" model run against whatever data is available. If you get each one from a bureau, they run it against the data they have on you, so that is why each of the three can provide a different score (if one is missing a few accounts, or one has an error)

If a third party is pulling all the data together and generating a single score (rather than reporting the three scores) then they are compiling all that data and can come up with a slightly different score.

Lenders have the right to choose whether they want the old Empirica/Beacon/etc FICO, or the Next Gen FICO. Most mortgage lenders are still going with the older one because Fanny Mae still uses it. Consumers don't get a choice. You are being sold next Gen FICO. It may or may not match up.

Okay, I don't have any information to argue.

I do know that ten weeks ago that was not the case. Ten weeks ago I ordered my reports, as a consumer, directly from the big three CRAs, with scores, and they each provided me with their standard score (Empirics, Beacon, etc.) that matched EXACTLY with the reports pulled by the lendors through a third-party providers.

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