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No, I mean what marriage IS, as established by the nature of the universe.

The fact of the matter, as has been told repeatedly on this thread and others like on other boards, is marriage has changed throughout history. All we are doing now is working on a new definition, whether you are for same sex marriage or not.

You discount that and call it English language, but it is true.

My problem with defining marriage is who gets to define. Clearly Norm would not want people like me to define it, and in turn his ideas of marriage scare the <bleep> out of me.

If the voters were presented with the notion that marriage was not only between a man and a woman, but also for the intent of bearing children, I bet you would see most of these initatives fail.

The scary thing for some of you on this board, is that one day there will be same sex marriage. You can kick and scream about it all you like, but time is on my side.

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