Not only here on FIRE boards, but it is interesting listening to people outside of FIRE talk about retirement with my family, friends and co-workers. I hear comments all the time like "I'll never retire now" or "it looks like it will be really tight when I retire with social security, if I get much".I think that just as things weren't as rosy as they seemed back than, they probably aren't as gray as they seem now."Hope for the best, plan for the worst."Mosquito
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