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Author: eatenbybears Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 1961430  
Subject: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 3:21 PM
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I expect that more and more we will discover the secret deals and plans that went on behind the scenes of the Obama election campaign.

Just add one more to the list.

Another American Icon torn down by the Liberal agenda

In just two hours, Hostess may be gone to the world !

It was known to be fact that the Twinkie could last for eternity and remain edible ..... But Hostess could not stand up to the power of the anti sugar liberals, the Obama backed unions and the dead in the water Obama economy.

NEW YORK The bankrupt maker of Twinkies and Ding Dongs says that if its employees don't end a nationwide strike by 5 p.m. ET Thursday, it will file a motion in U.S. Bankruptcy court to "liquidate the entire company."


Hostess Brands is reorganizing under Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. The company announced in a statement on Wednesday that a liquidation of its business would result in losses of nearly 18,000 jobs.


The International Brotherhood of Teamsters, Hostess Brands' largest union, and the group's lenders support the company, according to Hostess. But the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers Union (BCTGM), which called the strikes on Nov. 9, has not reached an agreement with the company to settle disputes over wages, benefits and pension contributions.






You get what you vote for !!!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505143_162-57550453/twinkies-mak...


Bears
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Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 3:32 PM
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The International Brotherhood of Teamsters, Hostess Brands' largest union, and the group's lenders support the company, according to Hostess. But the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers Union (BCTGM), which called the strikes on Nov. 9, has not reached an agreement with the company to settle disputes over wages, benefits and pension contributions.
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WHAT??!!! Another company taken down by excessive pension costs? I don't believe it. I would have thought promising to pay people to NOT work in perpetuity would have been a great idea. Duuuurrrrrr

Mark

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Author: cjb44 Big funky green star, 20000 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 1837086 of 1961430
Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 3:42 PM
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The good news is that if you buy a box today you can share it with your grandkids 30 years from now...those things last forever...Like a Government Program.

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Author: eatenbybears Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 1837088 of 1961430
Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 3:43 PM
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The good news is that if you buy a box today you can share it with your grandkids 30 years from now...those things last forever...Like a Government Program.

Yup ... sounds good at the time but produces nothing but empty calories

Just like the government

Bears

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Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 3:43 PM
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<The good news is that if you buy a box today you can share it with your grandkids 30 years from now...those things last forever...Like a Government Program.>

Damn that pesky interstate highway system

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Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 3:52 PM
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Damn that pesky interstate highway system

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Clearly you've never been stuck on I-95 North...trying driving from Maryland to Boston in the summer and instead of the usual 6 hours it takes closer to 10. Great idea, but over funded and under preforming.

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Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 4:21 PM
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over funded and under preforming.
I am endlessly stunned at the inability of people to understand uncertainty principles and supply-side economic theory.

With regard to Interstate Highways, they have a strong tendency to create their own demand. The bigger the highway, the more it is used, the greater the backup, the bigger the highway...
Self-perpetuating feedback loop, variously referred to as "vicious circle", "virtuous circle" and "death spiral" depending on perceived outcome.

Y'all really should read The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York for a better understanding.

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Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 4:21 PM
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Damn that pesky interstate highway system

Yeah and all those national parks.............

The National Weather Service never gets it right..........

Hate to see all those kids not going hungry because of food stamps...a little starvation is what they need for character.


When I get a shot at the doctors I like to think I'm getting a big blast of some deadly bug at the same time.........


I just love the goobers and tin foil hat crowd.

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Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 4:30 PM
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With regard to Interstate Highways, they have a strong tendency to create their own demand. The bigger the highway, the more it is used, the greater the backup, the bigger the highway...
Self-perpetuating feedback loop, variously referred to as "vicious circle", "virtuous circle" and "death spiral" depending on perceived outcome.

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But at the same time, does there always need to be a lane closed for construction, that has zero work being done?

And while it does it create it's own demand, there's also a reality that three lanes should be four in alot of cases. And on the NJT 2 lanes should be 3 as well.

It's a combination.

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Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 4:43 PM
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But at the same time, does there always need to be a lane closed for construction, that has zero work being done?

I can only imagine the frustration of being someone who doesn't know how things work, and who goes through life fretting and fussing about stuff like this.

"Anxiety from Ignorance" - the first principle of the Conservative Entertainment Complex. Keep 'em stupid and mad at everything.

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Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 5:51 PM
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It was known to be fact that the Twinkie could last for eternity and remain edible

Actually this is an urban legend, they last about 10 days in package, about 24 hours out of package (stale). That's it. Actually, perpetuating the lie that they last forever, because they are made out of chemical soup, is a big part of the reason why Interstate Bakeries has gone bankrupt.

TWICE.

But now I see into the heart of the political right.

Bankrupt banks - good must save them at all costs - too big to fail

Bankrupt insurance companies - good must save them at all costs - too big to fail

Bankrupt junk food manufacturer - good must save them - oh no an American icon - the Twinkie!

Bankrupt automotive company - DIE! DIE! DIE! Not that the Impala, Camaro, GTO, Charger, 300, Challenger, Daytona, were EVER American icons.

You do realize that the 12,000 Interstate Bakery employees are EVIL UNION EMPLOYEES OUT TO KILL YOU AND EAT THE BRAINS OF YOUR CHILDREN!!!!

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

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Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 5:56 PM
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Actually, perpetuating the lie that they last forever, because they are made out of chemical soup, is a big part of the reason why Interstate Bakeries has gone bankrupt.

Huh. And I thought it was because they just taste bad.

--FY

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Author: goaltender95 Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 1837172 of 1961430
Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 6:05 PM
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Wow! Your even dumber than Lurkermommy for posting this sh*t yet again and blaming the President yet again.

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Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 6:16 PM
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The average Twinkie, does in fact have a shelf life of 20 - 25 days

This means if the Unions did not agree today and the plants close on Nov 19th, the last twinkies will be on the shelf until until Dec 13th

After that , you buy at your own risk

Bears

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Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 6:30 PM
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The bigger the highway, the more it is used, the greater the backup, the bigger the highway...
Self-perpetuating feedback loop, variously referred to as "vicious circle", "virtuous circle" and "death spiral" depending on perceived outcome.


Truer words have never been spoken, Wu. And there is no irony in this comment, either.

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Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 6:33 PM
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Uhh, its already bankrupt, bears. Maybe its incompetent management that is at the root of this, or perhaps being crushed by such socialist endeavors as Frito-Lay, Nabisco, etc etc.

But why blame management and the competition, when you can blame the unions and Obama?

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Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 8:06 PM
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But why blame management and the competition, when you can blame the unions and Obama?

Sorry ... just out fishing

Cant help but to throw a line out like "Obama kills the Twinkie", troll for a while and see how long it takes for a Liberal to think I must be serous.

Kind of like sports fishing :)

Bears

But the Unions are the final collapse of Hostess if they did not address the contract by 5:00 PM today

On the other hand, I must admit I have no idea what obama was doing about it, so I wont blame him (though he should have sent Biden to negotiate with his people)

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Subject: Re: Obama kills the Twinkie Date: 11/15/2012 8:50 PM
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But why blame management and the competition, when you can blame the unions and Obama?
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The competition? You think Hostess is in financial trouble because a competitor is stealing their market share?

Management? I guess you can blame them for agreeing to unsustainable employee costs..........except they were being extorted by a union so I don't know if you can blame someone who is being extorted for making illogical decisions.

Mark

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