Okay, I've tasted all of the beers you mentioned - I like them all. I'm still not ready to hold them up to the most complex and ethereal wines. So please explain why you are trolling on a WINE board about beer? There must be a beer board where your expertise is needed?

Thanks for the great beer info anyway.

Cheers!

Winegoddess

Bonheoffer wasn't trolling but extolling a comestible delighting the palate as any good wine. A good wine has layers of taste and certain flavors each designating provenance and heredity; a good beer says, “I have flavor as any fine wine yet I help you pee sooner.” For that beer is far better than, say, a sweet Chardonnay reminding of Doris Day.

I truly do like a good wine. A nice wine with a good meal and with pleasant company whilst a harpist plays for amusement is to be remembered – a page in one's life of memories to be savored. “Where was it, hon, we had the 1976 Flickenflacker? Oh, now I remember: it was that quaint inn in the Argonne with the Hendersons and their daughter who was marrying later than year. How could I forget?”

Beer memories are different yet memories nonetheless. Sitting on the stoop, scratching your ass and belching louder than the frog's croaks, and letting one go and blaming it on the dawg. The mystique of beer is as the mystique of wine but wine is Grit Paper 2000 while beer is Coarse Grit 001: both have polish.

Wine conversation: “Would you like a taste of the 1976 Flickenflacker? It has a taste of blackberries, a slight overtone of elderberries all encompassed by a slight hint of oak and silver birch.”

Beer conversation: “You want that last slice of pizza?”

I don't think that Bonhoeffer was trolling; me, I most decidedly am. Partially because I am still learning about wines (Thank you, Winegoddess) yet already know a lot about beer. In fact, I just poured another a few moments ago and – sorry about that, it was the dawg.

MichaelR