UnThreaded | Threaded | Whole Thread (5) | Ignore Thread Prev Thread | Next Thread
Author: FastMike Big red star, 1000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 459029  
Subject: OT : 10 December, 1992 Date: 11/8/2012 7:45 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 40
"...About 25 mi (40 km) offshore Long Branch, waves reached heights of 44 ft ..."

Dear seaworthy Fools :

Well, Sandy was an experience. However, it was not the first time I had to "face the elements". Hurricane Sandy made Hurricane Irene look like a cakewalk. But Irene was still wussy compared to the December nor'easter of 1992.

On 30 October, 2012, a Sunday afternoon I arrived home from work into a commotion in the lobby. A mandatory evacuation order had already been in effect since 8 A.M. Residents were expected to evacuate by 4 P.M. How nice. I report to work at 6 A.M. and quit at 2:30 P.M. !

Since it takes about 20 minutes to drive the five miles home from work, (Hard to believe? 7 traffic lights, one railroad crossing and three stop signs) that gave me a whole 70 minutes to pack a bag and get out. Well, what's to worry? I've seen the very worst it could ever be once before.

The lobby was filled with confused and frantic tenants. The police wanted us out. The tenants wanted to stay. The city website still said that the mandatory evacuation was for the lower lying area a few miles north of here, and not for us. (As usually happens in a bad storm). The building owner wanted to shut off all utilities and the Fire Department Chief said he wanted them on.

I went upstairs, stuffed a small knapsack with some clean clothing and a few things that I would need just in case it was a "real disaster".

This included my check book, debit card, credit card, health insurance card, etc., and whatever cash I had. Why should I worry? I could always go to a cash machine. The laptop? Safer here. Might drop it, lose it, whatever. Leave it home. I'll be back tomorrow.

After all, Hurricane Irene was nothing compared to the '92 nor'easter so how much worse could Hurricane Sandy be? Never heard of the December 1992 nor'easter?

For a few years in the early 90s, I was an on site caretaker for a local beach club. Let me draw a picture of how suddenly the ocean can become vicious and deadly in the blink of an eye.

The club's chaise lounge deck was about 150 from the tide line and the beach slopes up about 15 feet high to that deck. The chaise deck ran from the beach back about 30 feet to the pool deck. The deck continued back about another 20 feet or so to the deep end of the pool. The pool continued back 100 feet to the shallow end and another 10 feet to the office/caretaker building. So the building roughly 320 feet and perhaps 20 feet above the tide line.

At that time I would take care of winter time maintenance chores at the club in the afternoon, take a quick nap and then work the midnight shift at the USPS processing facility. My routine was to come home and flop into bed asleep before my head hit the pillow. The back to the daytime chores. The gale was just kicking up when I arrived home that morning.

Something, I'll never know what, broke loose and was banging away in the wind. It was about 10 A.M. "Okay, I'll go tie it down and fix it later". Still half sleep, I thought that the office door was stuck. I couldn't get it open. It took a few minutes to realize that the wind was holding it closed. I had to fight it open and get outside. It slammed shut behind me. I saw something that I always thought, until then, was a Hollywood dramatic effect : the ocean literally looked like a mountain range. I worked my way as close to the chaise lounge deck as I dared by moving between the pool cabana's walkways. The wind must have been 50 mph. They would eventually reach hurricane force. By this time, the waves were crashing just short of the chaise lounge deck. Debris was flying everywhere!

The east and west wings of the ocean cabanas were being smashed. Water had lifted the chaise lounge deck off the pilings underneath. I went back to the office to telephone the pool club's manager. As I was describing the damage I witnessed what I later learned was a "tidal surge" : several waves broke, but didn't rush out. Finally, in one smooth motion a big wave broke and kept coming like a river. It nearly filled the empty 165,000 gallon pool in minutes and rushed along it's walkways towards the office. Where it finally stopped and slid back.

The surge happens so fast and so furious, there's hardly time to react:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_1992_nor%27easter

Had that been Sandy's tidal surge, it would have washed away the office, and continued out over the parking lot, another 100 feet out onto "Ocean Boulevard". (And from what I've heard, it might have. I don't yet know for certain).

Anyway, the experience of the '92 nor'easter, and having seen Irene come close to the boardwalk the previous year and the very good probability that this could be worse, I decided to leave merely thinking that this storm would be something in between and a one or two day inconvenience. It would be simpler to stay at a nearby discount hotel.

Instead, I spent one night in my car, two nights at a Sheraton with no power, (staff was wonderful, served hot meals) then "home" to a cold dark six more days. The power came back on as the temperature was dropping last night. I saw an eerie nightmarish world of gas lines, boarded up store fronts, yet open for business, people shopping with flashlights inside, and patrolling national guard troops on local streets. And home! Home became a cold dark, hollow place!

How fast our comfortable world can change!

A million thanks to those line workers from all over the country who were out there in a driving rain yesterday to get power to this section and did so, just in a nick of time.

So I pretty much experienced what Jeff (Ormont), LOTROQueen, scaryblondechick, notehound, chkNYC and others experienced.

I thought that I witnessed, first hand, up close and personal the worst storm in living memory ever to hit the Jersey shore in December 1992. I couldn't imagine anything worse.

It's really, really difficult to wrap my mind around the fact that I've just experienced a storm that made the '92 storm pale by comparison.

And I'll leave you all with one bit of advice : when the ocean unleashes it's full fury, don't go down to the shore to see it. Just get away as fast as you can!

Your storm wise Fool,
FM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Print the post Back To Top
Author: texirish Big red star, 1000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 407966 of 459029
Subject: Re: OT : 10 December, 1992 Date: 11/8/2012 8:01 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
And I'll leave you all with one bit of advice : when the ocean unleashes it's full fury, don't go down to the shore to see it. Just get away as fast as you can!

Great advice. And well known to experienced dwellers along the Florida and Gulf Coast shorelines - plus some in the Carolinas.

But there are always skeptics and newcomers who seem to have to learn it for themselves.

Best to take the advice above every time - even if some events turn out more benign than expected. Water is the big killer in storms - not to mention property wipeout.

The huge oak trees and antebellum homes along the Mississippi Gulf Coast are now only a memory of my childhood.

Print the post Back To Top
Author: WendyBG Big gold star, 5000 posts Top Favorite Fools Top Recommended Fools Feste Award Winner! Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 408024 of 459029
Subject: Re: OT : 10 December, 1992 Date: 11/9/2012 11:41 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 2
< when the ocean unleashes it's full fury, don't go down to the shore to see it. Just get away as fast as you can!>

When Jeff said, before Sandy hit, that he might go to Coney Island to see the waves, I told him to stay away. Over and over, storm casualties occur at the beach, even in minor storms. Ditto for earthquakes -- a guy got killed in Crescent City, CA taking photos of the tsunami after the Japanese earthquake.

Glad to hear that you weathered the storm, FastMike! What an experience!
Wendy

Print the post Back To Top
Author: Woolybooger1 Big red star, 1000 posts Feste Award Nominee! Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 408188 of 459029
Subject: Re: OT : 10 December, 1992 Date: 11/11/2012 5:51 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 6
Fast Mike,

I was only between the 7th and 8th Grade, but it was a point in time I will never forget.

Folks decided they would have a "Hurricane party in the Richelieu Apartments during Hurricane Camille. Here is the link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Camille

Good to read the whole story, but about half way down the page you can see the before and after pictures. Kinda needs no additional commentary.

My Granparents had a house on the beach, but we were about 10 blocks off the beach and there was a 10 foot elevated rail barrier that saved our house from the storm surge.

Day 1 was unbelievable, but just incredibly messy. Days 2-21 became horrific. Smells of dead animals including quite a few wonderful folks who just didn't get it. No electricity for 3 weeks in August in Mississippi was tough to handle. But the neighbors and loved ones made it survivable.

Glad you did okay and so many had the good sense you did. Anyone........ I repeat anyone who has been in water..... be it a river or the Ocean knows the power. It cannot be underestimated. It is unforgiving and relentless in times such as those.

Good words for those who will listen. Thanks for your post.


Wooly............ who just got to enjoy Nassau, St. Thomas, and St. Maarten............Life is indeed short..........

Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Print the post Back To Top
Author: FastMike Big red star, 1000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 408193 of 459029
Subject: Re: OT : 10 December, 1992 Date: 11/11/2012 8:07 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 3
"...Hurricane party in the Richelieu Apartments..."

Dear WB1 :

60 minutes just aired a piece on the devastated Queens, New York neighborhood of Belle Harbor. There was a short clip of the 'tidal surge'. Interviewed residents often used the term 'river'.

Just one last note about the shocking scale of Hurricane Sandy:

I describe the tidal surge of the December 1992 nor'easter rushing in about 300ft and climbing up at least 15 feet. It nearly reached the office and destroyed the east end of the club.

I drove by the club last Friday. Debris were piled up about three feet high at the entrance gate. That means that the water came rushing in with great force, way, way past the point I saw in '92 and the chain link fence at the entrance acted as a 'strainer'. It takes at least another 150 to 200 feet to get that far.

It's really hard to imagine what you described: the devastation that a Camille sized storm can cause, or a Katrina or Andrew, for that matter. (There's a list of 'most intense' hurricanes on that Wiki page, too).

Definitely humbling.

Your once bitten Fool,
FM

Print the post Back To Top
UnThreaded | Threaded | Whole Thread (5) | Ignore Thread Prev Thread | Next Thread
Advertisement