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Author: imcharliehm Three stars, 500 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 35387  
Subject: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/10/2002 12:02 AM
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For years I've cussed TMF for not providing civilized tools like a spell-checker, and I apologize profusely to all those who've put up with my posts replete with lexicographic mistakes, errors, holidays, eccentricities, etc. But good news, Fellow Fools, the following link solves the problem:

www.iespell.com

They offer a free, 2MB app that will spell-check posts. The server is fast; the app doesn't mess with system files; and it's easy to use. (Once the app is installed, merely on right click on the post you're writing to access a drop down menu.)

From brief testing so far, the app as fast as Word's spell-checker with as good or better a dictionary.

Props to Texandesi for a post of his over at the HWTSC discussion board ( = Help with This Stupid Computer) that pointed me toward the link.

Charlie
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Author: Mark0Young Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 5159 of 35387
Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/10/2002 12:30 AM
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Have they improved the dictionary in the past year? I deleted iEspell off of my may machine after I got frustrated with it trying to hyphenate too many words.

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Author: imcharliehm Three stars, 500 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 5160 of 35387
Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/10/2002 12:39 AM
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Mark,

That I don't know, for seeing the app for the first time tonight, but you're right. Its dictionary does seem to favor hyphenations over simple compounds, but even if the app has known annoyances, anything that cuts down on the mistakes that interfere with readability is a huge improvement over the nothing that is currently provided to us by TMF.

Anyone? Do you know of a better app?

Charlie


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Author: mjcalab Two stars, 250 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 5162 of 35387
Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/10/2002 1:12 AM
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Anyone? Do you know of a better app?

I've been happy with this spell check program for a few years.

http://www.hotlingo.com

mjcalab

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Author: splotto Big gold star, 5000 posts 10+ Year Anniversary! Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 5163 of 35387
Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/10/2002 8:25 AM
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Charlie:

I gust typ mi post in WURD furst an then cut an paist it heer when i am dun.

Splotto

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Author: imcharliehm Three stars, 500 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 5166 of 35387
Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/10/2002 10:24 AM
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Splotto,

Are you kin to Dan Boone? You spell like he did (which is an accomplishment), or Lewis and Clark of their Journals of Discovery, which Moon extensively quotes from in his book River Horse, which ended up being a worthwhile read after all.

Composing in Word and then pasting is a technique I'll use, too, when I know ahead of time what I want to say and the post is going to be lengthy. But sometimes I'm just responding off the cuff, like with this one, and I want TMF to give me an assist.

Charlie

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Author: Lokicious Big gold star, 5000 posts Feste Award Nominee! Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 5168 of 35387
Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/10/2002 11:15 AM
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Charlie,

The whole Lewis and Clark Journals are a blast. Also recommend Paul Kane's Wanderings of an Artist (1859)—look in library or used. Kane was the first of the "Group of Seven" (or Gang of Seven, as my wife calls them), Canadian painters of Canadian landscapes and native life, who traveled with a Hudson's Bay annual trading expedition to your neck of the woods and provides the most details day-to-day of these haroowing treks I've ever read (like trying to get up the Columbia, pre-dams, as winter nears, all the while lugging his drawings).

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Author: imcharliehm Three stars, 500 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 5172 of 35387
Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/10/2002 12:09 PM
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You're right, Loki. I do like expeditionary journals (e.g., Xenophon's Anabasis) Thanks for the Kane rec, which ILL will have. Charlie

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Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/10/2002 1:02 PM
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Eye agree. The spelling on the enter net is weigh beyond watt is excepted in my classroom. Aye in courage all my pew pulls to ewes MS Word's interactive spelling. This massage past with know mistakes, sew aye no eye won't be embarrassed by it.

PF

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Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/10/2002 6:33 PM
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Charlie,

Re: Paul Kane. He goes on two treks. I found the second, out your way, much more interesting than the first, where he goes only as far as my stomping grounds (Michigan), though it may just be that I've read lots of accounts of that part of the fur trading route. I did enjoy his descriptions of early Toronto.

If you've never read the Jesuit Relations (the annual reports sent home by the missionaries in New France between 1633 and 1673), they are probably the best travel/adventure stories ever, complete with the most horrifying descriptions of torture, including of some Jesuits, ever written—you need to learn to skip over the boring accounts of conversions. Start with Paul Le Jeune, Vol 5. Le Jeune could just flat out write. You can download from

http://puffin.creighton.edu/jesuit/relations/

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Author: imcharliehm Three stars, 500 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 5188 of 35387
Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/11/2002 10:44 PM
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Loki,

Your link was contacted and book-marked. Thanks.

It's riches like those whose enjoyment costs mere pennies that makes me wonder why I grub so hard for dollars I don't need. I could retire last week on already accumulated pension benefits and turn scholar again. A peripatetic and dilatory one, (aka, dilettante-ish one), true, but an care-free and engaged one, too. My happiest hours are a nose in a book, listening to the stories of the ancients, or a pen in hand, bashing, mashing, smashing morphemes for the pure joy of their music.

Charlie

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Author: Lokicious Big gold star, 5000 posts Feste Award Nominee! Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 5189 of 35387
Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/12/2002 8:12 AM
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Charlie,

I always get corrected when I say, "publish and perish," but I'm right. Real scholarship tends to be what one can do in one's spare time, even when pursuing an academic career. Many of the smartest scholars I've known have left academia, dropped out of graduate school, or settled for teaching in low-prestige colleges. What it's really about is the pursuit of knowledge and a willingness to share and discuss what intrigues you with others.

With the Jesuit Relations, I found it easiest to copy them from the downloaded web page and paste them into word for saving and further reading. In my dream world, we will someday have all the important (and not so important) primary souce documents available in digitalized format in both facsimile and word processed forms. It could be done for about the cost of one day of war. If the high tech billionaires really wanted to leave a legacy they would create an endowment for doing just this, like Carnegie and his libraries.

If you haven't bookmarked the Bodelian, they have at least scanned in a few from their document collection.

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Author: imcharliehm Three stars, 500 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 5190 of 35387
Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/12/2002 8:41 AM
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It could be done for about the cost of one day of war.

Yes, all they'd have to do is just not build a bomb or two, or cancel a black op or two, and there's be more than enough money to support scholarship for as many people as might be inclined, creating a golden, neo-Confucian age (not that that world doesn't have its own vicious or silly fashions and politics, too.)

OTOH, things are cheaper, easier, faster for us bookworms than they used to be. Every once in a while in my attic boxes I'll stumble across photocopies made 30 years ago for some project or other and wince at the low quality and high cost (in inflation-adjusted dollars), not to mention the hassle of getting stack permissions, etc.)to assemble the texts in the first place.

Is is merely greener pastures that are creating the heart-longings?

Charlie





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Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/12/2002 8:51 AM
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Charlie,

Someone else you would really like (and identify with) is Pierre Radisson. Here's a brief bio (I was hoping someone had put his memoir on the web, but can't find it).

http://www.nlc-bnc.ca/explorers/h24-1460-e.html

He was a scounrel, kidnapped by the Iroquois as a teen, tortured but adopted, escaped (with con), went fur trading outside the monopoly law that kept the trade to the Company of 100, was shown the way to Hudson's Bay about which he told the French, and when they weren't interested, turned traitor and joined the English and was one of the founders of the Hudson's Bay Company (though the bankers, not he, prospered from it). He was only semi-literate and not always a pleasure read, but a great character. Almost as much fun as Etienne Brulé, probably the first Frenchman (teen) sent by Champlain to live among the Indians, who went native (possibly because Indian girls were easy)—unfortunately all we know of him is a few fascinating, off hand references (he was apparently tortured and eaten by the Huron, to whom he had fled, after betraying Champlain to the English/Hugonauts).

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Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/12/2002 10:06 AM
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Loki,

Are there translations available? (My grad-school French --just enough to pass the reading exams-- is too rusty to be useful.)

After dealing with a week of computer problems and trading fears, I jumped back in just now. My entry was sloppy, for prices running a bit past where I estimated support, but I exited to the penny at resistance, grabbing 14 cents on SPY. That's book money I took out of their pockets, and now I'm off to my day job.

Trade well, Charlie

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Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/12/2002 11:10 AM
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Charlie,

Radisson wrote his book in English (sort of—he was illiterate in two languages).

The Explorations of Pierre Esprit Radisson, Arthur Adams, editor (my copy is Minneapolis: Ross and Haines, 1961). Should be available from a good library or used over the web (I use American Book Exchange http://whipper.abebooks.com/abep/il.dll).

My hero, Brulé, never wrote nothin', and is only known through a half dozen brief comments by Champlain, Saint Jean Brébeuf (whose torture by the Iroquois is one of the highlights of the Jesuit Relations, c. 1649-50), and a Franciscan, whose name I'm blanking on.

Of course, one can always go back and read Parkman about most of this stuff—considered very un-PC, of course, but then again so are all the primary sources. Parkman's Jesuits of New France (I think that's the title) takes a lot of the juicy bits from the Jesuit Relations. Champlain is a pretty cool read, too, especially the volumes of his complete works that deal with the early days of Quebec and his travels with the Algonquins and fights with the Iroquois (which got the French into a very violent blood feud with a more powerful enemy, aided and abetted by the Brits—blood feuds are worth understanding, because that's the wars we're fighting now, and you can't easily kiss and make up, and rebuild, as with Germans and Japanese—Kipling got the Afghans).

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Author: imcharliehm Three stars, 500 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 5197 of 35387
Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/12/2002 11:40 PM
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Loki,

How did you get involved with that period of history? And what is its continuing attraction? And do you attempt to find parallels in the accounts of the cultural/colonial conflicts that happened on other continents or draw lessons about what present-day missionaries/"civilizers" --e.g., the SIL-- are doing?

What part of you is historian? What part literary critic? What part ethnographer? How do you position yourelf with respect to your materials and what stance as story re-teller do you take?

Charlie

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Subject: Re: OT: A Spell-Checker for Your Posts Date: 11/13/2002 8:51 AM
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Charlie,

It's kind of like a Shakespeare scholar needing to know a lot about Elizabethan England and the broader contexts in which Elizabethan England existed (e.g., Reformation).

However, only about 10% of the New France history/travel has any relevance to my research. I've read a lot more of it than I need because it's very interesting: everything from the failed venture capitalism of the Committee of 100 (bailed out by the court and undermined, partly, by Napster types of the fur trade, like Radisson) to getting a real understanding of blood feud warfare, which, as I said, is what goes on in most of the places the US is now involved militarily. Plus there's a lot of just plain good stories, and I love a good story, especially of the picaresque variety, and the real life adventures in the New World are less believable than the most outlandish picaresque novel.

Of course, my real hero is Richard Burton (the first, though the Welsh guy was pretty picaresque himself, at least in his love life)—explorer, scholar, translator, taboo breaker, and purveyer of classic porn. What more could one ask for in a career.

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