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Author: namkato Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 63011  
Subject: Post Office screwing taxpayers all year Date: 12/21/2009 7:58 PM
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multi-billion dollar losses:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08...
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Subject: Re: Post Office screwing taxpayers all year Date: 12/21/2009 8:51 PM
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Yes, namkato, you should be outraged! OUTRAGED!!!

How dare the USPS show a decline in revenues during a recession? Who ever heard of such a thing EVER happening before!?!

Tell ya what. Go write a letter of protest to the CEO of the USPS. Do it. Vent your spleen!

Then march on over to your local FedEx office and ask that they deliver your letter of protest for two-bits. Go ahead.

Let us know how that went.

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Author: alaskack Big red star, 1000 posts Old School Fool CAPS All Star Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 22324 of 63011
Subject: Re: Post Office screwing taxpayers all year Date: 12/22/2009 12:04 PM
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Then march on over to your local FedEx office and ask that they deliver your letter of protest for two-bits.

USPS will charge you $0.44 for the privilege. ;^)

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Author: rainphakir Big red star, 1000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 22333 of 63011
Subject: Re: Post Office screwing taxpayers all year Date: 12/22/2009 3:26 PM
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Better yet... email it. there's a 'contact us' link on the USPS web page.
Just be sure to write your complaint in a 'doc' then copy and paste to the bureacratic form they provide. Remember, this is the USPS - everything in triplicate - even emails.

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Subject: Re: Post Office screwing taxpayers all year Date: 12/23/2009 10:28 PM
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Yes, namkato, you should be outraged! OUTRAGED!!!
How dare the USPS show a decline in revenues during a recession? Who ever heard of such a thing EVER happening before!?!


Sarcastic points are well taken. To top it all off, apparently the USPS has been screwed over by a 2006 law..I can't find the original article which had more details, only have found part of it at one link but

"A 2006 law requires USPS to make payments between $5.4 billion and $5.8 billion over the next 10 years to a trust fund for future retiree benefits, while paying for current retiree benefits out of operating revenues."

The law and other restructuring assumed, first, no huge recession,and two, that mail volume would keep going up, when it imposed this large multi billion dollar burden on the post office.

Might be an honest mistake by Congress, a mistake that can be fixed now Bush gave us the largest recession since the Great Depression, or it could be yet another example of the right-wing holy war to under-fund every government program (or create huge burdens like this one for paying current and huge payments to future...a private company in a recession would not need Congress to do anything, it would just say, "sorry, there's a recession, those future payments are on hold, we'll pay just to current retirees") and then when it suffers, scream "See, government programs don't work, so let's cut them even more" and repeat that cycle forever with every goverment program...well not every one, not for the 650 billion on the mlitary or prisons or spying on citizens or that kind of stuff not for giveaways to corproations from the government, but everything else, cut it, or keep budget same and put burdens like the above, or both, then complain it doesn't work.

Who was it who said, "Republicans always campaign on the claim that government can't work, and then when they get into office, they proceed to prove that point"? Was it Al Franken?

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Author: Edlbym One star, 50 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 22385 of 63011
Subject: Re: Post Office screwing taxpayers all year Date: 12/23/2009 10:35 PM
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The article in the thread actually did let slip part of the story,

"If we were part of the federal government and treated as an agency, we would not be paying prefunding to a retirement benefit trust," Potter said at a news conference Wednesday announcing the financial situation. "On the other hand, if we were in the private sector, we would not be prefunding these retirement payments [either]. So therein lies a bit of a dilemma."

So they got royally screwed by the combination of this law and the Great Recession of Bush-Cheney and all that.
Even putting all of this aside, the Right has made it into a national passtime to whine every time postal rates go up about the same as inflation..but when private companies increase prices at above-inflation rates (drug companies anyone?) it's "oh shut up, it's the miracle of the free free free market!"

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Subject: Re: Post Office screwing taxpayers all year Date: 12/23/2009 11:07 PM
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<<Who was it who said, "Republicans always campaign on the claim that government can't work, and then when they get into office, they proceed to prove that point"?>>



Heck, Democrats don't need the help of Republicans for THAT! The Democrat solution when their programs are failing are perpetual tax increases. But don't confuse that with government programs that work.



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