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Author: HOGridin Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 260  
Subject: President's Day sale gone bad Date: 2/18/2008 2:48 PM
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I find evidence of youthful exuberance lacking historical significance, or perspective at least, all around us. In the Motor Company it can be seen in their new ads, their sponsorship of tough man fights, some of the new Motor Clothes. It appeals to a younger crowd I am told.

GM spouting a stolen Corvette racing the streets like a video game in last years Superbowl - now that made no sense to me.

What happened to a hint of experience and a smattering of the enthusiast to bring a historical relevance to these companies and products? Is that too much to ask?

But things have really gone awry when I just heard a Nissan ad celebrating its 50th anniversary sale in honor of Presidents Day.

Let me get this straight, one of our most honored Presidents, FDR, was serving when Nissan built bombers and fighters attacked Pearl Harbor. We are supposed to be honoring this President by supporting the company anniversary by further attacking American's jobs by purchasing foreign owned company products?

HOGr
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Author: MJL2022 Two stars, 250 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 250 of 260
Subject: Re: President's Day sale gone bad Date: 2/21/2008 12:31 PM
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I recently purchased my first "foreign car". My Nissan Altima was built in Nissan North America plant located on 983 Nissan Drive in Smyrna, TN.

The Nissan Design America is located in San Diego California, and in close coordination with engineers at the Nissan Technology Center located in Farmington Hills, Michigan, are responsible for the creation of the Altima, Maxima, Xterra, and Frontier, as well as the 350Z.

How does that attack "American's jobs"?

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Author: HOGridin Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 251 of 260
Subject: Re: President's Day sale gone bad Date: 2/22/2008 10:10 AM
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from another board: "It might surprise you that [some] of the auto factories built in the USA in the last 20 years have been built by foreign companies- Honda, Toyota, Nissan, and, to a lesser degree, European auto makers.

So while the company may be "foreign", they are actually adding jobs to the USA."


I am keenly aware of the growth of assembly plants being built here. Where US auto plants have had entire cities grow up around, them providing jobs for family generations, infastructure, and promised retirement; costs of aging plants and older workers makes green-field plants in other states more cost advantageous. But I know of far too few who have research, development and engineering centers here in the US. Many of those plants are choke full of imported machine tools also, which, by the way, are only bolted to the floor, not permanently affixed. Most of their engineers are expatriates who spend intern-like periods on rotation here.

Be that as it may, when our promised $600 spending incentive from Congress and Gee Dubya #43 (since the solution to economic problems is to have US consumers buy more goods) when that is gone and we stop buying goods from those plants because our economy as a net importer and our innovative design & manufacturing brain-trust is overseas, what do you think will happen to those jobs?

Do you really believe that equipment, investment and those new jobs won't be packed up and shipped to India, China, South America or where ever the next large spending consumer-driven economy is thriving?

I could be wrong,
I hope I am.

IMHO, too many young American lives have been lost defending our right to buy imports only to have no future once they are too old to fight anymore.

HOGr

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Author: 1946dodge Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 255 of 260
Subject: Re: President's Day sale gone bad Date: 5/14/2008 8:35 PM
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They trip over themselves on their way to the Toyota dealers. They drool as they shell out American cash for their chariot made by the Land of the Rising Sun. They speed off to the nearest Walmart to glut themselves on the latest goods from Red China.

Americans are stupid, slothful and are asking to be bent over and had.

And those of us who know better have to suck it up on our way to the unemployment line.

On a bus, or a train, made in Japan.

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Author: 1946dodge Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 256 of 260
Subject: Re: President's Day sale gone bad Date: 5/14/2008 8:37 PM
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I recently purchased my first "foreign car". My Nissan Altima was built in Nissan North America plant located on 983 Nissan Drive in Smyrna, TN.

The Nissan Design America is located in San Diego California, and in close coordination with engineers at the Nissan Technology Center located in Farmington Hills, Michigan, are responsible for the creation of the Altima, Maxima, Xterra, and Frontier, as well as the 350Z.

How does that attack "American's jobs"?

Nissan is owned by Japan. Built in America by Americans with very few benefits. Either work there or get laid off from GM or Ford as they close their plants.

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