Great place to get questions answered on the cars and modifications to them. On shoppriuschat.com you can find discounts for things like fog lights, body side molding, mud guards, etc.Note that some parts will say "OEM" but refer to Toyota's *supplies*, not Toyota itself. Dealerships may balk at installing some items like fog lights.BG
Has anyone who owned a Prius decided to trade back in for a standard car end if so, why?FuskieWho also wants to know if anyone has taken the next step to an all or primary electric vehicle...
DW lobbied hard for a Prius years ago and we bought a used 04 basic model. She really liked it and I finally thought after about five years that maybe she deserved something nicer so I found a 2010 Prius model four coming off lease for a less than outrageous price.The '04 accelerated a LOT more than I thought it would, but the cloth seats were, I thought, uncomfortable. The '10 is much nicer but accelerates poorly (probably due to all the goodies hanging on the model 4) and still has the legroom problems of the '04. OTOH, it seems to get better mpg.I know one Prius owner who late went back to a non-hybrid, but it was a unique situation.BG
As well as wondering about hybrid owners switching to non-hybrids (great question Fuskie, although unfortunately anyone who did switch probably isn't following this board any more), I'm wondering about Prius owners who have gone to a newer version. I've been very happy with my 2004 Prius, and a few months ago had a bit of a windfall that allowed me to consider trading in for a new one. I went and test drove one, but was disappointed to find that I didn't like it as much as my 2004. It seemed a bit smaller to me, and I was later able to verify that that's because it really is. Plus, it was missing some of the convenient little compartments to stash things that I like in my 04. And since the performance specs were about the same, I couldn't find anything to make me want a newer one, except the repair bills are starting to mount a bit as things need replacing (not the batteries yet).Anyone traded in a 2nd-generation Prius (2004-2009) on a 3rd-generation Prius (2010 or later)? What do you notice as differences? I don't believe the next generation of Prius is due until 2015 or 2016, so I may need to wait until then. Looking at specs, I don't see any other similar hybrids that compare favorably with the Prius for performance or comfort.
We traded in DW's '04 for an '11. I don't know what differences were due to the change in year versus moving up from the base model (to a "four"). I didn't do any detailed study comparing the two, but just thought DW deserved a better car as she commutes 50mi each workday and sometimes takes the car on long trips. All I did was honor her request for another Prius and then hunted for the best deal I could find.BTW, we are seeing a number of off-lease 2010's showing up locally and there are some good deals out there.BGP.S. The only real comparison we did was look at the latest Prius and compare it to the 2010. The only thing obvious to us was that the newer Prius had a USB input for the sound system.
but was disappointed to find that I didn't like it as much as my 2004. It seemed a bit smaller to me, and I was later able to verify that that's because it really is. Plus, it was missing some of the convenient little compartments to stash things that I like in my 04. And since the performance specs were about the same,compare the dimensions:dimensions for 2004: http://www.thecarconnection.com/specifications/toyota_prius_...for 2010: http://www.thecarconnection.com/specifications/toyota_prius_...They are substantially the same. The 2010 is a bit bigger in some dimensions and a bit smaller in others...mostly fractions of an inch.When sitting in the drivers seat the 2010 feels a bit smaller because the center console is quite different and feels more like a cockpit.True about fewer compartments and less space for water bottles in the door, etc. They added more door insulation to reduce road noise...only a regular bottle fits...no big Gulps. If you can get over the difference in the center console, the 2010+ is better in mpg. It is a lot easier to get 55-60 mpg on some trips, regardless of EPA official numbers. And it has EV mode which (mildly) lets you force running on the battery and Power mode which changes the throttle response making you think the car has a lot more power.Mike
When sitting in the drivers seat the 2010 feels a bit smaller because the center console is quite different and feels more like a cockpit.Thanks for the info. I had looked at the numbers earlier and saw that passenger volume had decreased 3 cubic feet between the 2004 and 2010 (while cargo volume increased 5 cubic feet). I'm not sure if the center console design is included in that calculation or not, but that is what really felt like it was impinging on space that I enjoy in my 2004, and took a big bite out of whatever urge I was feeling to trade in.Good to know about the added door insulation, although I've never felt road noise was an issue in my 2004 (plus I drive with my windows down a lot). I put all the compartments to a lot of use, including the sunglasses compartment in the ceiling above the rear view mirror, which also is no longer included.The better mileage in the 2010 is a big plus, but all in all, I'm going to wait a while longer and see what else comes up before I trade in.
Road noise with the rear windows down is horrendous on my 06. FuskieWho never lowers them unless he flicks the switches by mistake...
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