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Subject: Puzzled about bonds Date: 4/28/2009 8:48 PM
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Intrigued by Charlie's praises of Zion's Direct, I transferred some funds and am prepared to invest in some bonds.

I'm far too risk averse to buy junk issues, but Zion's also has investment grade bonds, and I'm only looking for moderate yields of 5-6% or so.

I did a screen on bonds that were rated A and above (S&P). I was amazed to see Bear Stearns and Wachovia bonds on this list. Since I no longer trust the ratings agencies, I deleted those bonds. The list of bonds A and above and up to 10 years is below.

Some of these bonds (Genworth) yield in junk territory.

The Wells Fargo bonds puzzle me, because they have different ratings and also a strange yield curve.

The GE Capital bonds yield much less than they did during the crisis.

I have read the financial statements of these companies, but I can't for the life of me tell whether they will be able to pay off their bonds.

I would like any comments.


Issue CUSIP Coupon Maturity Price Yield to Worst Yield to Mat Moody/S&P
Allstate Life Global Fdg Listed 02003MBQ6 5.375 4/30/13 99.999 5.375 5.375 A1/ AA-
Amgen Inc Make Whole Call Only - Conditional Puts - Change of control 031162AX8 6.15 6/1/18 107.179 5.15 5.15 A3/ A+
Bank Of New York Corenote Callable 11/09@100 - Conditional Puts - Death of holder 06406JDU6 5.7 11/15/18 97.834 6.001 6.001 Aa3/ A+
Berkshire Hathaway Fin Co Make Whole Call Only - Listed 084664BE0 5.4 5/15/18 101.773 5.152 5.152 Aa2/ AAA
Berkshire Hathaway Fin Co Make Whole Call Only - Listed 084664BE0 5.4 5/15/18 101.728 5.158 5.158 Aa2/ AAA
Bhp Billiton Fin Usa Ltd Listed - Conditional Calls 055451AF5 5.4 3/29/17 101.183 5.215 5.215 A1/ A+
Delmarva Pwr & Lt Co 247109BB6 7.61 12/2/19 109.994 6.301 6.301 Baa1/ AA-
Ge Capital 36966RQJ8 5.25 12/15/14 98.314 5.601 5.601 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes 36966R2R6 5.85 12/15/14 101.499 5.535 5.535 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes 36966RQ90 5.2 2/15/16 97.203 5.701 5.701 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes 36966RQ82 5.1 2/15/16 96.646 5.701 5.701 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes 36966RXQ4 4.45 6/15/16 92.161 5.801 5.801 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes 36966R2B1 5.75 8/15/16 99.105 5.901 5.901 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes 36966R2B1 5.75 8/15/16 99.98 5.752 5.752 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes 36966RW69 5 3/15/17 94.685 5.851 5.851 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes 36966RRX6 5.25 8/15/19 88.12 6.863 6.863 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes 36966RST4 5 9/15/19 88.006 6.6 6.6 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes 36966RT71 5.65 9/15/19 93.647 6.5 6.5 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes 36966RU61 5.55 11/15/19 91 6.745 6.745 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes Callable 06/09@100 - Conditional Puts - Death of holder 36966RGC4 4.125 6/15/15 90.892 5.901 5.901 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes Callable 06/09@100 - Conditional Puts - Death of holder 36966RAN6 5.6 12/15/15 99.17 5.751 5.751 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes Callable 08/09@100 - Conditional Puts - Death of holder 36966RBW5 5.25 2/15/16 97.508 5.695 5.695 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes Callable 11/09@100 - Conditional Puts - Death of holder 36966REG7 5 5/15/16 95.5 5.787 5.787 Aa2/ AA+
Ge Capital Internotes Conditional Puts - Death of holder 36966RGW0 4.35 7/15/14 95.935 5.251 5.251 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Listed 36962GXS8 5.875 2/15/12 102.015 5.085 5.085 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Listed 36962GXS8 5.875 2/15/12 101.802 5.169 5.169 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Listed 36962GXS8 5.875 2/15/12 101.885 5.137 5.137 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Listed 36962GXS8 5.875 2/15/12 101.898 5.132 5.132 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Callable 10/09@100 36962GS39 5.5 10/6/17 92.663 6.65 6.65 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962GYY4 6 6/15/12 102.05 5.275 5.275 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962GYY4 6 6/15/12 102.276 5.198 5.198 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962G3K8 5.25 10/19/12 100.232 5.175 5.175 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962G3F9 5.4 9/20/13 101.255 5.075 5.075 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962G3F9 5.4 9/20/13 101.196 5.091 5.091 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962G2Z6 5.5 6/4/14 101.61 5.135 5.135 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962G2Z6 5.5 6/4/14 101.387 5.185 5.185 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962GX41 5.65 6/9/14 101.161 5.385 5.385 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962GX41 5.65 6/9/14 101.161 5.385 5.385 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962GK86 4.75 9/15/14 96.168 5.585 5.585 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962GP65 4.875 3/4/15 94.361 6.033 6.033 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962GP65 4.875 3/4/15 93.025 6.32 6.32 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962GP65 4.875 3/4/15 93.62 6.192 6.192 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962GP65 4.875 3/4/15 94 6.11 6.11 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962GP65 4.875 3/4/15 95.354 5.823 5.823 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962GU69 5 1/8/16 92.353 6.423 6.423 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962GU69 5 1/8/16 93.244 6.25 6.25 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962GY40 5.375 10/20/16 92.864 6.6 6.6 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962GY40 5.375 10/20/16 91.961 6.763 6.763 Aa2/ AA+
General Elec Cap Corp Mtn Listed 36962G2G8 5.4 2/15/17 91.066 6.9 6.9 Aa2/ AA+
General Electric Cap Corp Listed 36962GZY3 5.45 1/15/13 100.839 5.195 5.195 Aa2/ AA+
General Electric Cap Corp Listed 36962GZY3 5.45 1/15/13 100.366 5.337 5.337 Aa2/ AA+
General Electric Cap Corp Listed 36962GZY3 5.45 1/15/13 100.572 5.275 5.275 Aa2/ AA+
General Electric Capital Listed 36962G3T9 4.8 5/1/13 98.264 5.287 5.287 Aa2/ AA+
General Electric Capital Listed 36962G3T9 4.8 5/1/13 98.028 5.355 5.355 Aa2/ AA+
General Electric Co Listed 369604BC6 5.25 12/6/17 95.607 5.908 5.908 Aa2/ AA+
General Electric Co Listed 369604BC6 5.25 12/6/17 95.9 5.863 5.863 Aa2/ AA+
General Electric Co Listed 369604BC6 5.25 12/6/17 95.545 5.918 5.918 Aa2/ AA+
Genworth Directnotes Callable 12/09@100 - Conditional Puts - Death of holder 37248JAB8 5.5 12/15/17 65 12.162 12.162 A2/ A
Genworth Global Fdg Tr Callable 02/10@100 - Conditional Puts - Death of holder 37248JAL6 5.3 2/15/18 47.5 17.02 17.02 A2/ A
Genworth Global Fdg Trs 37247XAN2 5.2 10/8/10 89 13.905 13.905 A2/ A
Genworth Global Fdg Trs 37247XAC6 5.125 3/15/11 88 12.502 12.502 A2/ A
Genworth Global Fdg Trs 37247XAE2 5.375 9/15/11 79.6 16.04 16.04 A2/ A
Genworth Global Fdg Trs 37247XAE2 5.375 9/15/11 84.98 12.919 12.919 A2/ A
Genworth Global Fdg Trs 37247XAE2 5.375 9/15/11 78 17.02
Hancock John Life Ins Co Conditional Puts - Death of holder 41013MUW8 5.35 9/15/15 100.499 5.256 5.256 A1/ AA+
Hancock John Life Ins Co Conditional Puts - Death of holder 41013MXX3 5.75 11/15/18 98.108 6.013 6.013 A1/ AA+
Hartford Finl Svcs Group Make Whole Call Only 416515AV6 6 1/15/19 67 11.796 11.796 Baa3/ A
Hartford Finl Svcs Group Make Whole Call Only 416515AV6 6 1/15/19 68.5 11.458 11.458 Baa3/ A
Hsbc Finance Corp Listed - Conditional Calls 40429CFW7 5.25 1/15/14 98.2 5.689 5.689 A3/ AA-
Jp Morgan Chase & Co Listed 46625HCE8 4.75 3/1/15 97.88 5.174 5.174 Aa3/ A+
Jpmorgan Chase & Co 46625HHL7 6.3 4/23/19 99.306 6.395 6.395 Aa3/ A+
Jpmorgan Chase & Co 46625HHL7 6.3 4/23/19 99.706 6.34 6.34 Aa3/ A+
Jpmorgan Chase & Co Listed 46625HGY0 6 1/15/18 98.016 6.298 6.298 Aa3/ A+
Jpmorgan Chase & Co Listed 46625HGY0 6 1/15/18 98.416 6.237 6.237 Aa3/ A+
Lowes Cos Inc Make Whole Call Only - Listed - Conditional Puts - Change of control 548661CN5 6.1 9/15/17 106.747 5.099 5.099 A1/ A+
National Rural Utilities Make Whole Call Only 637432LR4 10.375 11/1/18 117.483 7.742 7.742 A1/ A+
National Rural Utilities Make Whole Call Only 637432LR4 10.375 11/1/18 118.536 7.6 7.6 A1/ A+
National Rural Utilities Make Whole Call Only 637432LR4 10.375 11/1/18 117.6 7.726 7.726 A1/ A+
National Rural Utils Coop Make Whole Call Only 637432HT5 5.45 4/10/17 98.412 5.701 5.701 A1/ A+
National Rural Utils Coop Make Whole Call Only 637432KT1 5.45 2/1/18 97.728 5.783 5.783 A1/ A+
National Rural Utils Coop Make Whole Call Only 637432KT1 5.45 2/1/18 100.754 5.34 5.34 A1/ A+
Nucor Corp Make Whole Call Only - Listed - Conditional Puts - Change of control 670346AG0 5.75 12/1/17 103.423 5.249 5.249 A1/ A+
Protective Life Internote 74367CFU4 5.1 7/15/12 97.398 6.001 6.001 A2/ AA-
Protective Life Internote 74367CFF7 4.5 3/15/13 93.239 6.501 6.501 A2/ AA-
Protective Life Internote 74367CET8 6 9/15/17 89.1 7.795 7.795 A2/ AA-
Protective Life Secd Trs 74367CFP5 5 6/15/13 95.507 6.251 6.251 A2/ AA-
Protective Life Secured T 74367CAU9 5 4/15/18 78.25 8.52 8.52 A2/ AA-
Southtrust Corp 844730AG6 5.8 6/15/14 91.865 7.752 7.752 A2/ AA-
Statoilydro Asa Make Whole Call Only - Conditional Calls 85771SAA4 5.25 4/15/19 101.136 5.103 5.103 Aa2/ AA-
Target Corp Make Whole Call Only - Conditional Puts - Change of control 87612EAS5 6 1/15/18 101.582 5.765 5.765 A2/ A+
The John Hopkins Universi Make Whole Call Only 478115AA6 5.25 7/1/19 101.52 5.057 5.057 Aa2/ AA
Ubs Ag Brh Mtn Sr Dep Nt 90261XBY7 5.875 7/15/16 77.5 10.383 10.383 Aa3/ A
Wells Fargo & Co New Listed 949746CL3 5.125 9/1/12 99.766 5.2 5.2 A2/ AA-
Wells Fargo & Co New Listed 949746NW7 5.25 10/23/12 100.5 5.091 5.091 A1/ AA
Wells Fargo & Co New Listed 949746NW7 5.25 10/23/12 100.303 5.153 5.153 A1/ AA
Wells Fargo & Co New Listed 949746NW7 5.25 10/23/12 100.133 5.207 5.207 A1/ AA
Wells Fargo & Co New Listed 949746NW7 5.25 10/23/12 100.045 5.235 5.235 A1/ AA
Wells Fargo & Co New Listed 949746NY3 4.375 1/31/13 96.58 5.395 5.395 A1/ AA
Wells Fargo & Co New Listed 949746NY3 4.375 1/31/13 96.706 5.355 5.355 A1/ AA
Wells Fargo & Co New Listed 949746NY3 4.375 1/31/13 96.941 5.285 5.285 A1/ AA
Wells Fargo & Co New Listed 949746NY3 4.375 1/31/13 96.763 5.337 5.337 A1/ AA
Wells Fargo & Co Listed 949746CR0 5 11/15/14 91.5 6.87 6.87 A2/ AA-
Wells Fargo & Co Listed 949746CR0 5 11/15/14 91.75 6.812 6.812 A2/ AA-
Wells Fargo & Co Listed 949746CR0 5 11/15/14 92.375 6.668 6.668 A2/ AA-
Wells Fargo Bk Natl Assn 94980VAA6 4.75 2/9/15 86.375 7.717 7.717 Aa3/ AA
Wells Fargo Bk Natl Assn 94980VAA6 4.75 2/9/15 86.382 7.719 7.719 Aa3/ AA
Wells Fargo Bk Natl Assn 94980VAA6 4.75 2/9/15 86.492 7.689 7.689 Aa3/ AA
Wells Fargo & Co New Listed 949746JE2 5.125 9/15/16 85.5 7.741 7.741 A2/ AA-
Wells Fargo & Co New Listed 949746JE2 5.125 9/15/16 89.789 6.915 6.915 A2/ AA-
Wells Fargo & Co New Listed 949746NX5 5.625 12/11/17 94.395 6.483 6.483 A1/ AA
Wells Fargo & Co New Listed 949746NX5 5.625 12/11/17 95.5 6.309 6.309 A1/ AA


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