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Author: knighttof3 Big red star, 1000 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 13878  
Subject: "and" or "or"? Date: 11/7/2012 1:55 PM
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I need to give following instructions to the employees:
"If anything important comes up, contact X for project A issues, and Y for all other issues."

Would it be better to say
"If anything important comes up, contact X for project A issues, or Y for all other issues."?

I do not want to make any changes to the rest of the wording.
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Author: culcha Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool CAPS All Star Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 12720 of 13878
Subject: Re: "and" or "or"? Date: 11/7/2012 3:25 PM
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How about: "If anything important comes up, contact X for project A issues; for all other issues, contact Y."?

Or maybe: "If anything important comes up: contact X for project A issues, and contact Y for all other issues."

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Author: TMBFAverageJoe Big funky green star, 20000 posts Top Favorite Fools Top Recommended Fools Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 12721 of 13878
Subject: Re: "and" or "or"? Date: 11/7/2012 3:48 PM
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Go with and.

Or, if this is considered an "other issue", contact Y to see how he wants to settle it.

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Author: Frydaze1 Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 12722 of 13878
Subject: Re: "and" or "or"? Date: 11/7/2012 5:08 PM
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If you really want to *only* consider that word for a change, I'd go with "or". I think it gets your point across most clearly.


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Author: sheila727 Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 12723 of 13878
Subject: Re: "and" or "or"? Date: 11/7/2012 8:07 PM
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vs....

"If anything important comes up, contact X for project A issues, or Y for all other issues."

_______________________________________________________

I prefer "and" or nothing, and dislike the "or."

My choice:

"If anything important comes up, contact X for project A issues, Y for all other issues."


sheila

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Author: discurro Big gold star, 5000 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 12724 of 13878
Subject: Re: "and" or "or"? Date: 11/8/2012 11:07 AM
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I need to give following instructions to the employees:
"If anything important comes up, contact X for project A issues, and Y for all other issues."

Would it be better to say
"If anything important comes up, contact X for project A issues, or Y for all other issues."?

I do not want to make any changes to the rest of the wording.


I agree with some others that changing the wording may be the best choice, but logically I think what you want is "or".

By using "and" you are stating contact X for project A
for all other issues, contact X and Y

By using "or" you are stating that only Y should be contacted in the second case.

I know either way people will figure it out, but the programmer in my prefers the correct usage of "and" and "or".

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Subject: Re: "and" or "or"? Date: 11/8/2012 12:15 PM
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It depends. The words "And" and "Or" obviously have different meanings. "And" denotes both cases, and "Or" denotes one or the other.

So the audience of your message....are some possibly addressing both? Or do all address one or the other. If former, choose And. If latter, choose Or.

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Author: discurro Big gold star, 5000 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 12726 of 13878
Subject: Re: "and" or "or"? Date: 11/8/2012 12:17 PM
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It depends. The words "And" and "Or" obviously have different meanings. "And" denotes both cases, and "Or" denotes one or the other.

So the audience of your message....are some possibly addressing both? Or do all address one or the other. If former, choose And. If latter, choose Or.



huh?

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Author: sheila727 Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 12727 of 13878
Subject: Re: "and" or "or"? Date: 11/8/2012 1:09 PM
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By using "and" you are stating contact X for project A
for all other issues, contact X and Y



I respectfully disagree.

"If anything important comes up, contact X for project A issues, and Y for all other issues." is a shorthand way of saying:

If anything important comes up, discuss project A issues with contact X and discuss all other issues with contact Y.



sheila

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Author: discurro Big gold star, 5000 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 12728 of 13878
Subject: Re: "and" or "or"? Date: 11/8/2012 3:51 PM
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"...is a shorthand way of saying"

as i said, either would be understood, but I was speaking logically not shorthand.

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Subject: Re: "and" or "or"? Date: 11/8/2012 8:54 PM
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It depends. The words "And" and "Or" obviously have different meanings. "And" denotes both cases, and "Or" denotes one or the other.

So the audience of your message....are some possibly addressing both? Or do all address one or the other. If former, choose And. If latter, choose Or.


huh?


I think the point is: is there an issue that is a Project A issue and also, simultaneously, an "other issue"?

Suppose for the sake of argument that the facility is flooded. EVERYTHING going on in that facility stops, and some things actually lose ground because stuff has to be repaired, replaced, or redone. Project A is among the several projects affected - at a very minimum it is not progressing on schedule. So is this a Project A issue, an "other issue", or both?

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Subject: Re: "and" or "or"? Date: 11/8/2012 10:20 PM
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I do not want to make any changes to the rest of the wording.

That's too bad, because often the best solution to a problem like this is to rewrite the whole sentence, sometimes splitting it into two sentences.

Like this, for example:
If anything important comes up, contact:
• X for project A issues
• Y for all other issues


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