"Just like other famous tinkerers such as Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, Edwin Land, et al. One doesn't enter the Pantheon solely on one's own merits."Im not sure Land's peers had to endure people proposed, with perhaps assumed chance of success, imagine what if Edward Land developed <insert any very different product/market> like comes up so often with Jobs. You're right - many of those guys too were idolized and brands presumed to be about more than their actual contributions. Wrt Jobs again it's an understatement that he did what he did quite well but he didn't try to do everything, nor without an enormous supporting staff of implementers, and that's probably a pretty important element to his successes. I have little trouble forgetting the things that were declared good enough that weren't nor that users were assumed to know less about what they wanted that Jobs knew (that he was sometimes right doesn't make it less arrogant). "It would've made for a most interesting Phase Three of the industrial revolution, though, don't you think?:No, I think that Jobs would have great difficulty winning markets across the board unless we accept "it's just a hobby" excuse when they fail to win or break even. As a product developer & patent owner I have due respect but not worship (early era Woz though was a bit worshiped by me when younger I admit, and Jay Minor of Atari & Amiga design fame, and...well to get back ontopic I could start naming Ford design stars like Najjar, Ask, Shinoda, et al but this is already straying a bit OT from the Stang weight starter).Fun topic KennyO - cheers to ya!B
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