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Author: kenm47 Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 63289  
Subject: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/18/2012 11:07 PM
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Why can't they leave the classics alone?

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Ken
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Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/19/2012 12:00 PM
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I guess you are joking.

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Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/19/2012 1:07 PM
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"I guess you are joking."

About what?

Calling the original Darren McGavin "Night Stalker" a classic? IMO, it was. And I don't see Depp pulling it off.

Ken

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Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/19/2012 1:35 PM
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Calling the original Darren McGavin "Night Stalker" a classic? IMO, it was.

I guess you was not joking.

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Author: kenm47 Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 62053 of 63289
Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/19/2012 1:37 PM
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"I guess you was not joking."

I were not.

Ken

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Author: FoolYap Big funky green star, 20000 posts Feste Award Nominee! Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 62055 of 63289
Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/19/2012 8:13 PM
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Why can't they leave the classics alone?

If people shunned this kind of crap rehash, they would.

--FY

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Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/20/2012 2:58 PM
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If people shunned this kind of crap rehash, they would.

In this case, the hurdle to exceed the quality of the original is not that high.

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Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/21/2012 6:28 PM
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In this case, the hurdle to exceed the quality of the original is not that high.

Yup. This a rehash of crap (albeit one I have fond memories of), not a "crappy rehash" of a classic.

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Author: kenm47 Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 62060 of 63289
Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/21/2012 8:59 PM
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"Yup. This a rehash of crap (albeit one I have fond memories of), not a "crappy rehash" of a classic."

While I have not watched it for years and years, I have more than fond memories of a show (first with two two hour TV movies - Night Stalker and Night Strangler - that preceded the series) unlike anything else then on. True to the horror genre and often funny (in the same way BtVS later was funny) with the oddball crew that worked on the paper Kolchak worked at, including the old crossword lady.

It's also a classic as a direct ancestor (genre speaking) of The X Files.

Loved how it was set up so it wasn't really clear if Kolchak was a straight reporter/narrator, or just a great spinner of yarns pulling the audience's collective leg.

I also thought the story of Seattle's underground city was fascinating - only recently learned the reality there is somewhat less interesting than the TV version.

Once again, another each to their own.

Ken

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Author: FoolYap Big funky green star, 20000 posts Feste Award Nominee! Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 62061 of 63289
Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/21/2012 10:09 PM
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While I have not watched it for years and years

More often than not, I find that my nostalgia for a film or TV series from my childhood or young adulthood doesn't survive collision with viewing it today. Such was the case with "Night Stalker", alas. Might be best for you to just remember it fondly.

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Author: kenm47 Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 62062 of 63289
Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/21/2012 10:45 PM
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"Might be best for you to just remember it fondly."

Could be. I still think it holds a high place in the genre with many descendants based on some similar general ideas - weird sh(t happens, but only one or a few know the truth and have to act to save us all. That includes X-Files, Millennium, Lone Gunmen, Buffy, Dark Skies, The Invaders, The Chronicle, Special Unit 2, etc. - even Men In Black.

Ken

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Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/21/2012 11:56 PM
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I loved Kolchak: The Night Stalker (1974, starring Darren McGavin).

I liked Night Stalker (2005, starring Stewart Townsend), but nowhere near how I loved the 1974 original!

I think I'll eventually watch Depp in the role, but only after I can get it on Netflix.

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Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/22/2012 2:57 AM
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More often than not, I find that my nostalgia for a film or TV series from my childhood or young adulthood doesn't survive collision with viewing it today.

I found that to be especially true for The Invaders. I used to so look forward to each new week's show. I tried to watch it recently. Wow, was it bad. :)

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Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/22/2012 6:23 AM
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I think it's a great idea. Could be great, could be a total loser. What difference does it make if you remake something? Anything? Gone With the Wind? The Maltese Falcon? (You know, real classics!) In what way does that diminish the original? If you don't like the idea, just don't go see it, or rent it, or download it.

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Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/22/2012 9:27 AM
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In what way does that diminish the original? If you don't like the idea, just don't go see it, or rent it, or download it.

It diminishes the original by preventing it from being seen. When a remake is made, it's the remake that is usually shown on television, instead of the original. It gets replaced.

For example, my TV listing says The Ten Commandments (1956) was on twice in the past few days. I was looking forward to it. But, no, it was the crappy remake from 2006. I don't know how many times I've tuned it to The Four Feathers to find out it was the sappy Heath Ledger version (although, to be fair, my favorite version from 1939 is also a remake).

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Author: kenm47 Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 62067 of 63289
Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/22/2012 11:11 AM
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"What difference does it make if you remake something?"

Track history on this kind of thing is poor. What made the original "special," even if now seen as dated, is usually lost and the new version feels a need to come up with something that usually really does not work - e.g., Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

Sometimes, but IMO rarely, it does - e.g., Bram Stoker's Dracula (with Gary Oldman).

Besides, why not focus on new ideas? Are there no creative people out there?

Ken

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Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/22/2012 10:47 PM
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For example, my TV listing says The Ten Commandments (1956) was on twice in the past few days. I was looking forward to it. But, no, it was the crappy remake from 2006. I don't know how many times I've tuned it to The Four Feathers to find out it was the sappy Heath Ledger version (although, to be fair, my favorite version from 1939 is also a remake).

For what it's worth, the 1956 Ten Commandments is also a remake (DeMille remaking his own movie from 1923).

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Subject: Re: "Night Stalker" With Depp? Date: 11/23/2012 3:01 AM
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I sometimes find the reasons given for not wanting to see a film interesting. Two reasons recently got my attention:

1) A poster won't see Headhunters in spite of a positive review by a very discerning and insightful poster (that would be I), my friend and my wife, because he didn't like the way the book was going.

2) A poster won't see Night Stalker because he recalls enjoying a TV version of it decades ago.

I am not being critical of either decision, just expressing interest. I can, however, think of several terrible books that turned out to be good films, most prominent among them Marley & Me. OK, just kidding there. But the Bourne films are good examples of movies being a lot more fun than their source -- in this case Ludlum's often tedious and poorly written novels.

The reason I won't see Night Stalker is Johnny Depp, period. I'm rather tired of him, especially after Alice in Wonderland and The Tourist and all those Keith Richards impersonations.

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