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Has anyone actually seen a list of these loopholes that would be closed? I am very interested in actually seeing them since they will impact my taxes in the future.

Link?

(OBTW...the newest offer from Repubs is to make the tax cuts on the wealthy 'permanent'.)
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This might help:

http://politicalirony.com/2012/11/27/loophole-or-lifeline/

This seems to be a deeply cynical ploy, offering up loopholes that help out the middle class, so they can save them and make "everyone" happy, and/or prove that we really need to slash the safety net.

Here are a few more suggestions, with details and links, but it's unlikely they'd ever be proposed:

http://politicalirony.com/2012/10/10/loopholes/

As far as I am aware, no credible/authoritative (R) source has ever offered up a credible list of proposed "loopholes" to be closed.

rj
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Has anyone actually seen a list of these loopholes that would be closed? I am very interested in actually seeing them since they will impact my taxes in the future.



There is no list, and there never will be. But, NPR is currently doing a series, "12 days of loopholes", discussing one potential one each day.

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6: "There is no list, and there never will be."

Bingo. For at least 30 years the Republicans have been in favor of balancing the budget by cutting taxes and paying for them by cutting genearlized nouns like "waste", "fraud" and "loopholes" without ever specifying what they mean.

If pressed, they pick random political targets like, "Big Bird" or "Planned Parenthood" and calling them "a start".
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No the Republicans have not, cannot, and will not list them since:

1. The ones they want to close are ones assisting the poor; which are few and save very little money.

2. The ones they claim they want to close, like the mortgage deduction, are plums that the wealthy and real estate moguls love and thus are, to the Republicans, Sacred Cows.

3. They really do not have a list.....just like the mythical list of health care reforms McCain brought to the ACA discussions, or the mythical Reagan Welfare Queen, or the mythical Guiding Hand of the Free Market. All myths, just talking points that sound good yet have no substance.

Just my op though

md (Sweet lies, the breakfast of authoritarians)
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If pressed, they pick random political targets like, "Big Bird" or "Planned Parenthood" and calling them "a start".

Yep, smoke and mirrors...a true start would be the massive socialist "entitlement" program called the DOD.

Yumm, 20+ year no bid cost plus entitlement programs for things even the DOD does not want....and a weapons system/item the DOD doesn't want has got to be something quite special I would think.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2010/05/why-did-cong...

md (Waste is only if it helps the middle class or poor)
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Let's not forget the TWO new aircraft carriers we're building (because it takes two state-of-the-art ships to replace the retiring -ancient- Enterprise).

Yeah, cutting PBS and Planned Parenthood will cover it...

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/10/aircraft-carrier-rom...

Because we need more carriers than the combined navies of every other nation on the planet.
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Because we need more carriers than the combined navies of every other nation on the planet.

It is even more expensive than just the carrier though; you have to stock it with munitions, planes (very expensive ones), spare parts, tools, and then there are the escort ships.

Carriers do not operate by themselves, they have escort ships with all the associated costs that go with them.

And then there are the very expensive trained people you need to run them, repair things, and steer the bloody things.

All a very expensive way to bully other nations, kill goat herders, and "pertect" us from radical religious groups.

"Shooting blanks"...another book, dated, is of interest since it connects some of the true costs of any modern military....James F. Dunnigan is the author.

md (Nuclear Missiles that we don't want to use, and might just, if used, kill all of us)
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Obviously. Everything from belt buckles to food to training to aviation fuel to support ships. It's massively expensive.

The carrier strike group is an awesome weapon. I can understand having two or three, but 12? (And I hear some want to do a new one every four years.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_strike_group#Typical_CS...

A U.S. Navy carrier strike group typically includes:
A supercarrier, which is the centerpiece of the strike group and also serves as the flagship for the CSG Commander and his/her staff. The carrier is commanded by aviation community captain.
A carrier air wing (CVW) typically consisting of up to nine squadrons. Carrier air wings are commanded by an aviation community captain (or occasionally a Marine colonel).
One to two Aegis guided missile cruisers (CG), of the Ticonderoga class—a multi-mission surface combatant, equipped with BGM-109 Tomahawk missiles for long-range strike capability, each commanded by a surface community captain.
A destroyer squadron (DESRON) commanded by a surface community captain (O-6) who commands the escort destroyers, with two to three guided missile destroyers (DDG), of the Arleigh Burke class—a multi-mission surface combatant, used primarily for anti-aircraft (AAW) and anti-submarine (ASW) warfare, but which also carries Tomahawk missiles for long-range strike capability. A destroyer is commanded by a surface community commander.
Up to two attack submarines, usually of the Los Angeles-class used to screen the strike group against hostile surface ships and submarines, but which also carry Tomahawk missiles for long-range strike capability.
A combined ammunition, oiler and supply ship (AOE/AOR), usually Supply-class (T-AOE); provides logistic support.[6]
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ii Because we need more carriers than the combined navies of every other nation on the planet.


maybe sort of do need them

could we continue to rule the SolarSystem without them?
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LOL! I was just thinking, 'when the aliens invade and blow up half our fleet, then you'll be happy knowing we still have more'.
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Well, when it comes to that I think most surface vessels will have a problem. As submariners like to say: "There are two kinds of vessels: submarines and targets."

But then I saw the movie, and I know we only need the Mighty Mo to deal with any pesky extraterrestrials.
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