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Any other Brinker subscribers feel like the Newsletter completely missed this one? Some months ago, maybe a year ago, the "Secular Bear" Market was declared over. Well, I'd say that was not quite right.

As a matter of fact, I miss that language. I mean the "Secular" and the "Cyclycal" trends of the market that Mr. Brinker used to use to identify what the market was doing. He was so accurate during and after the tech boom in calling the overall trends. I pay less attention to the specific recommendations he makes, but he was good at calling the macro trends. He hasn't used that kind of language in a long time. Maybe, like the rest of us, it's a wait and see game.

Anyway, for about a year now, I'd say he's missed the trends completely. I hope I'm not telling any secrets out of school here, but I thought I'd put my thoughts "on paper" anyway to help me think about this market situation we find ourselves in.

By the way, I know that timing the stock market is a risky proposition and no-one can call everything correctly all of the time. My investment decisions are my own. I'm not assigning blame. Just looking to see if anyone else knows of what I speak.
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Any other Brinker subscribers feel like the Newsletter completely missed this one?
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By the way, I know that timing the stock market is a risky proposition and no-one can call everything correctly all of the time. My investment decisions are my own. I'm not assigning blame. Just looking to see if anyone else knows of what I speak.


I'm not a subscriber to Bob Brinker's newsletter, but I listen to his nationally syndicated show on Saturdays and Sundays. I don't know what he's been saying in the newsletter, but I've noticed that on the radio show he's been recommending GNMAs and FDIC insured CDs a lot lately.

Vanguard's GNMAs to be specific although he doesn't come right out and recommend Vanguard.

Vanguard GNMA Fund Investor Shares (VFIIX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/JSP/Funds/Profile/VGIFundPr...

Currently yielding 5.15% with an expense ration of 0.21%

Or, for those with more money to invest:
Vanguard GNMA Fund Admiral Shares (VFIJX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/JSP/Funds/Profile/VGIFundPr...

Currently yielding 5.25% with an expense ratio of 0.11%

Also, Brinker used to just say "CD" now he's careful to say "FDIC insured CD" when he's talking about CDs.

As a subscriber, can you tell me if the stocks he's been recommending in the newsletter are dividend payers?
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As a subscriber, can you tell me if the stocks he's been recommending in the newsletter are dividend payers?

I'm not currently a subscriber, but, I have been in the past. AFAIK he seldom if ever recommends or even talks about specific stocks except in response to a callers question.

Bob
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As a subscriber, can you tell me if the stocks he's been recommending in the newsletter are dividend payers?

As Bob said, Brinker does not generally recommend individual stocks. I read his newsletter to get an idea of the general direction and trends in the market and the economy. He has been very good at times in the past on forcasting market trends. He has missed badly(my opinion)over the last year. That was the subject of my original post.

Brinker has recommended GNMA's for a long time as a good fixed income instrument and still does. My post had to do with his opinions on the direction of the stock market over the last year in the newsletter.
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Hummmmmmm... since none of the three of us is a subscriber we may be overlooking a very important point.

Namely that Bob Brinker ALWAYS notifies his subscribers FIRST before making a general announcement on the air.

IF that is the case his newsletter subscribers may have already received a notice which we NONsubscribers won't hear about until next week!
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I am a subscriber

Oops! So you are.

So you haven't received any special notices from Brinker?
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So you haven't received any special notices from Brinker?

I'm not going to get specific about the newsletter, notices or lack of notices.

Bob Brinker takes a long term view for investing in the stock market, as do I. As I've said, he's been very good at identifying long term trends in the market for his subscribers. Lately (for about a year) I think he's missed something.

That's all I can say. I was thinking I might hear from other subscribers who would either validate or disagree with what I said in my original post. I'm not going to get any more speific about the newsletter itself.
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Bob Brinker takes a long term view for investing in the stock market, as do I. As I've said, he's been very good at identifying long term trends in the market for his subscribers. Lately (for about a year) I think he's missed something.

That's all I can say. I was thinking I might hear from other subscribers who would either validate or disagree with what I said in my original post. I'm not going to get any more speific about the newsletter itself.


I'm also a long time subscriber, and I've been thinking the same thing. I haven't gone back to check the decline after the last sell signal, but the current decline has eaten most of my gains since the last buy signal. I added to positions at points he suggested last year. I'd much rather be making those adds now after a 20-30% decline in the market.

It will be interesting to see if he announces any changes to the timing model after the current decline settles out.
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Here is one opinion on Brinker's accuracy:

http://bobbrinkerfanclub.blogspot.com/2008/10/bob-brinker-mi...

With fans like these, who needs enemies!
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With fans like these, who needs enemies!

I'm not sure, but a while back some guy came on here masquerading as a subscriber and pushing that board or one very much like it.

When I looked into it I determined that he was pushing his own (for fee) service and just using Brinker's name to get people's attention.

I didn't look far enough into the site you linked to to see if it's for fee or the same guy.

If he's selling something I'll wait until he's earned a nationally syndicated radio show with a 20 year history before sending him any of MY money.

I am always suspicious of those who try to make their mark on the world by attempting to tear down others!

Insofar as I can tell, not being a subscriber, Brinker still recommends no load funds. I sent in for a free sample newsletter back in November of 2001. It lists lots of funds Vanguard funds, TIAA/CREF, Rowe Price & a few others. No load funds, of course.

One thing I notice, as I look over the sample newsletter, is that (except for money market funds) most of the portfolios were spread out with two of the three funds amounting to no more than 5 to 10% in any one portfolio. I think that is a good thing.

Of course I don't know what the Bob Brinker Marketimer newsletter recommends now!

I've said it before and I'll say it again now: Bob Brinker's show (and probably his newsletter) are a Godsend to those who don't have the knowledge and/or time to learn the intricacies of owning individual stock and bonds.

He protects investors from those self serving sharks who masquerade as stock market advisors!

I do not know, but suspect, that Brinker's recent emphasis on Vanguard's GNMA Fund Investor Shares (VFIIX) and FDIC insured CD's reflects his current opinion.
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I'm a subscriber and all I'm gonna say is that now BB says he will try to identify a low and let us know. He hasn't done it yet.
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I'm a subscriber and all I'm gonna say is that now BB says he will try to identify a low and let us know. He hasn't done it yet.

Thanks, solarae100
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I'm a subscriber and all I'm gonna say is that now BB says he will try to identify a low and let us know. He hasn't done it yet.

Thanks, solare100.

Identifying a bottom will be useful, of course.

By the way, Mr. Brinker did identify a "correction bottom" last spring with the S & P 500 in the low 1300's. That bottom didn't hold.

I wish we had somehow identified the top, a year ago. Of course, timing the market that accurately is very difficult, if not impossible. That's why I've been posting. I'm asking the question of why do I subscribe to a market timing newsletter that hasn't worked very well this last year or so.

I admire Brinker, I listen to the radio show. I think he's a good mind and gives solid advice in a general way on the radio. However, the market timing srategies of Marketimer, which are the main purpose of the newsletter, have failed to help subscribers in this particular market. That's my opinion, because they have failed to help me. The "Markettimer timing model" has been in "positive territory" throughout this market. Subscribers have been advised to remain invested, and on a few occasions have been advised to invest new money into the market at market levels that, in hindsight, were not great entry points.

I'm not criticizing Brinker. As stated, perhaps timing the stock market is a "fools" (small f) game. I'm using this forum as a way to think this out and decide whether or not to re-new my subscription next year. As I've said in earlier posts, He called the end of the tech boom, he called a great entry point in Mar 2003 to get back in. Since then, for me, the timing strategy has failed. That's what I'm writing about.
I have to say again that I made my own investment decisions and I'm not blaming Mr. Brinker or anyone else. The newsletter is just a tool.

To non-subscribers: The Marketimer Newsletter is primarily a source of information for identifying market trends and timing the stock market. There are also model portfolios for different risk tolerances. There are also recommendations for good quality no-load mutual funds.
The radio show is a different product altogether and talks about a broader and myriad set of subjects, often dictated by the callers or the guests. It's a great and educational show.
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YES, HE BLEW IT!

I cancled my subscription...
I only bought it toget a Quicker heads Up on when to Reduce, like the last time..but didn't happen!

And can get about the same information fromother sites
Bob Brinker Fan Club

Sorry BB but with all your Inside knowledge and claimed understandng of the Investing and everything else? Iexpect you,of anyone to have Seen the Forest Thru-The_Trees and warned us..

You didn't know about all the Dereivitives being over leveraged by 40x? All the Poor Reserves not being kept in businesses accounts?

Baloney! And if you really didn't? Then your Not the kind of watch Dog I'm looking for to Protect my Investments..

and all that other Talk is all a smoke screen!

Enjoy your Fortune oyu made from Selling your Newletters all these yrs.. Me thinks, your time has come to hang it up and go further into Retirement and enjoy your wealth , just like all other Active Managed Funds... Nothing stays Up forever and Viagra doesn't help!
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