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seems to me there's four things -- connected,
but sometimes conflated

sometimes making one better makes another
also better, sometimes makes it worse


And you put it so politely without calling anybody iggerant.

I like to think I do my share... composting and reusable bags and minimizing my driving, keeping my heater turned down, don't use air-conditioning.... but I do like my ice maker and wood pellet BBQ, and I feel just terrible that bourbon uses a lot of hardwood charcoal, and that wine grape growers chopped down so many california oak trees....
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