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House: 234 to 198
Governorships: 29 to 20
State Legislatures: 27 to 15

Next stop, Senate control in 2014.

Thank you, Tea Party.
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Back from whom?
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Back from the worthless pampered pinhead boomers who took it over, of course.
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Back from the worthless pampered pinhead boomers who took it over, of course.

Isn't it their country, too?
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Back from the worthless pampered pinhead boomers who took it over, of course.

Isn't it their country, too?

For a little while. Hopefully, not long enough to break it.
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Back from the worthless pampered pinhead boomers who took it over, of course.

LMAO
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America is what it was founded to be, its traditions, its principles.

Those who don't like how it was founded and don't like its traditions are trying to change it, these are the people we need to take our country back from.

America was different, it was special, why the left wants to make it just like every other heavily socialized country is friggin ridiculous!!!
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Poor pampered and pouting Baghdad Bruce.

Just another moocher.
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Back from the worthless pampered pinhead boomers who took it over, of course.
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Isn't it their country, too?



Ironic. He wants to take away somebody's country. HA!

The "America" those people want, they can have. People who count know we can do better. I think that's what made America great
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America was different, it was special, why the left wants to make it just like every other heavily socialized country is friggin ridiculous!!!

Yep. They don't like America. Then they claim it's patriotic not to like America! That's chutzpah.
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Yep. They don't like America. Then they claim it's patriotic not to like America! That's chutzpah.



You've already told us that America no longer deserves you... told us twice, even.

So just leave... and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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For a little while. Hopefully, not long enough to break it.

Won't it still be their country, even if you (plural) "take it back"?
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Won't it still be their country, even if you (plural) "take it back"?

Not sure what you're getting at. They will be back benchers, where they belong.
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Not sure what you're getting at. They will be back benchers, where they belong.

I guess I'm asking whether you think it's any more your country than theirs (whoever you think "you" and "them" are). Or if it's everyone's country, no matter what.

Albaby
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So just leave...

Thanks for the advice, but I think I'll take a pass and start the work of restoring my country. As long as the majority is still decent, and the folks are, I won't turn my back on them.
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"Won't it still be their country, even if you (plural) "take it back"? "

I think the fact we know the orgins of America as a basis, its foundings, it documents, its principles, its traditions, etc. that the people who subscribe to this consider America our country, and those who are against the above, dislike America, hate what it stands for, calls it unjust, unfair, and wants nothing more than to change it are the people who don't themselves really claim America, they live here, but they don't claim it because in order to claim it you have to like/love it, and we know they don't, starting to love it because they are making the changes doesn't cut it. so in essense those who don't like America for America and will only like it if its changed from its origins are the people we need to take the country back from.
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I guess I'm asking whether you think it's any more your country than theirs (whoever you think "you" and "them" are). Or if it's everyone's country, no matter what.

The spoiled boomers are unworthy of their heritage. It is not their country to destroy. Even if they had a majority, it would still not be their country to destroy. Am I saying some voters are better than others? You bet I am.
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I think the fact we know the orgins of America as a basis, its foundings, it documents, its principles, its traditions, etc. that the people who subscribe to this consider America our country, and those who are against the above, dislike America, hate what it stands for, calls it unjust, unfair, and wants nothing more than to change it are the people who don't themselves really claim America, they live here, but they don't claim it because in order to claim it you have to like/love it, and we know they don't, starting to love it because they are making the changes doesn't cut it. so in essense those who don't like America for America and will only like it if its changed from its origins are the people we need to take the country back from.

Here's what I find marvelous about this quote - everyone can believe that they are the people who are the "our" in our country, and that the other side are the folks that don't really claim America. The above words could have been written by the most ardent liberal or the fiercest conservative.

Albaby
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The spoiled boomers are unworthy of their heritage. It is not their country to destroy. Even if they had a majority, it would still not be their country to destroy. Am I saying some voters are better than others? You bet I am.

You're not making a claim about whether some voters are "better" than others - you're making a claim about whether the country is some voters' country, and not others. Why is it not still their country as much as anyone else's, even if you think other voters are "better" than them?

Albaby
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hanks for the advice, but I think I'll take a pass and start the work of restoring my country.

On behalf of those who have been here longer than you have, may I say that you are certainly welcome to stay here and work for what you perceive to be the restoration of your country... because it is just as much yours as it is any of ours.

Thank goodness you have dropped the attitude of superiority that characterized your disposition last week- when you told us that America no longer deserved you.
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Here's what I find marvelous about this quote - everyone can believe that they are the people who are the "our" in our country, and that the other side are the folks that don't really claim America. The above words could have been written by the most ardent liberal or the fiercest conservative.

Thank you, albaby.

You are exactly right.
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"Not sure what you're getting at. They will be back benchers, where they belong."

You mean, where you guys are right now?
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You're not making a claim about whether some voters are "better" than others - you're making a claim about whether the country is some voters' country, and not others. Why is it not still their country as much as anyone else's, even if you think other voters are "better" than them?

I'm glad you asked. In lieu of an argument, an observation. One team thinks we are one of many nations. The other thinks we are a light unto the nations. The country RIGHTLY belongs to the latter. This is why we must win, with God's help.
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One team thinks we are one of many nations. The other thinks we are a light unto the nations. The country RIGHTLY belongs to the latter.

Because they hold a different view of the place of America in the world? That is enough to determine that the country belongs to one group, and not the other?

Albaby
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You're not making a claim about whether some voters are "better" than others - you're making a claim about whether the country is some voters' country, and not others. Why is it not still their country as much as anyone else's, even if you think other voters are "better" than them?

That they don't particularly like America is an excellent reason to vote them into the wilderness.
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Thanks for the advice, but I think I'll take a pass and start the work of restoring my country. As long as the majority is still decent, and the folks are, I won't turn my back on them.



All the best to you, Brucie. Keep up the mediocre work.
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That they don't particularly like America is an excellent reason to vote them into the wilderness.

Are they allowed to disagree with you about what it means to like America? And is "voting them into the wilderness" the same as determining that America does not belong to them?

Albaby
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Are they allowed to disagree with you about what it means to like America? And is "voting them into the wilderness" the same as determining that America does not belong to them?

It's really not as complicated as you are making it. We must vote them into oblivion because the America we love is essential and we care about the future. As for your hangup on the word "belong", American belongs to those who love America and our essential and irreplaceable role in the world.
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That they don't particularly like America is an excellent reason to vote them into the wilderness.

Confusing your vision of the country with the country itself... is a mistake that despots everywhere make on a regular basis.
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I think the fact we know the orgins of America as a basis, its foundings, it documents, its principles, its traditions, etc. that the people who subscribe to this consider America our country, and those who are against the above, dislike America, hate what it stands for, calls it unjust, unfair, and wants nothing more than to change it are the people who don't themselves really claim America, they live here, but they don't claim it because in order to claim it you have to like/love it, and we know they don't, starting to love it because they are making the changes doesn't cut it. so in essense those who don't like America for America and will only like it if its changed from its origins are the people we need to take the country back from.

Whatever that word salad said I think it assumed you know history. Riiiiight.
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It's really not as complicated as you are making it. We must vote them into oblivion because the America we love is essential and we care about the future. As for your hangup on the word "belong", American belongs to those who love America and our essential and irreplaceable role in the world.

Actually, it is more complicated. There is a difference between one group having political control of a country and saying that said country does not belong to one group or another. I am curious what you mean by using the latter, instead of the former.

But you didn't answer my question - can people disagree with you about what it means to love America, and what our role in the world is, without jeopardizing whether they are part of the group that America belongs to?

Albaby
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But you didn't answer my question - can people disagree with you about what it means to love America, and what our role in the world is, without jeopardizing whether they are part of the group that America belongs to?

That goes without saying. What has that to do with the question of Democratic anti-Americanism and whether the folks should kick them to the curb?
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That goes without saying. What has that to do with the question of Democratic anti-Americanism and whether the folks should kick them to the curb?

The "folks" kicked the Republicans to the curb on this go-round.

A major reason has to do with TeaParty paraders who think they are the only ones who love America, and their agenda is the only proper agenda for America.

It's getting to the point that I think those who constantly talk about their opponents' anti-Americanism- don't really have a clue what America is all about.

I find your words quite strange, Bruce.

Especially since you've just said (twice) that American no longer deserves you.
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"One team thinks we are one of many nations. The other thinks we are a light unto the nations. The country RIGHTLY belongs to the latter. This is why we must win, with God's help."

And you wonder why you guys lost the election.
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Sorry Brucie, hate to break it to you but it's not your Country anymore.

It's mine and people who think and vote like me.

So collect up all the other troglodytes and head on over to Galt's Gulch.
You and all the other makers will love it.
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Sorry Brucie, hate to break it to you but it's not your Country anymore.

It's still his country. As much as anyone's.

It's just that his opinion is "his". And his opinion was not reflected in the majority of votes cast by the "folks" last week.
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That goes without saying. What has that to do with the question of Democratic anti-Americanism and whether the folks should kick them to the curb?

It depends on what you mean by "kick them to the curb." Do you mean physically removing them from the jurisdiction of the United States? Stripping them of the normal indicia and benefits of citizenship? Excluding them from civic society?

I suspect not - I suspect you simply mean, "Vote them out of office through ordinary democratic processes during the next regularly scheduled electoral cycle." But if that suspicion is the case, then I believe your intimation that the country does not "belong" to people who disagree with the folks is inappropriate. The country belongs to all of its citizens; and while political majorities in our government can be taken from one group by another, the country itself cannot.

Albaby
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No Bill it's not his Country.
Brucie is in open revolt and wants nothing more than to destroy the United States to get at The President.

He may be a useless Unich of a terrorist but he's still a wannabe terrorist.
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No Bill it's not his Country.
Brucie is in open revolt and wants nothing more than to destroy the United States to get at The President.

He may be a useless Unich of a terrorist but he's still a wannabe terrorist.


Sorry, goaltender, but it's still his country. Our opinion of him does not determine whether or not it is his country.

Until he blows up a building or shoots someone, or openly calls for others to do the same, he's simply expressing his opinion.
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eunuch.....
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"One team thinks we are one of many nations. The other thinks we are a light unto the nations. The country RIGHTLY belongs to the latter. This is why we must win, with God's help."

And you wonder why you guys lost the election.


Clearly, God hates and refuses to help them.

--FY
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eunuch.....

Damn, I googled...google fail
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Damn, I googled...google fail

That's ok.

I understood your spelling to be the "hooked on phonics" spelling.
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I suspect not - I suspect you simply mean, "Vote them out of office through ordinary democratic processes during the next regularly scheduled electoral cycle." But if that suspicion is the case, then I believe your intimation that the country does not "belong" to people who disagree with the folks is inappropriate. The country belongs to all of its citizens; and while political majorities in our government can be taken from one group by another, the country itself cannot.

First, I want to say that I really appreciate how you do around here. You are first rate, and you definitely help me clarify my thinking.

And you're right, of course, that I'm talking about winning back the moral high ground, which is to say breaking the cultural monopoly that the left has established. If we succeed, we will be winning it back for the Democrat rank and file as much as for the Republican rank and file.
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"Because they hold a different view of the place of America in the world? That is enough to determine that the country belongs to one group, and not the other?

Albaby"

Not sure what's so difficult here, American isn't some obscure undefined thing, we have a starting point, a basis of how America was founded, its documents, its priciples, etc. that is what America is.

Group A - stands for and supports this America
Group B - stands against this America and wants to change it

It doesn't make sense to give Group B equal ownership of America when they despise it and want to change it, they are residents, not owners.
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It doesn't make sense to give Group B equal ownership of America when they despise it and want to change it, they are residents, not owners.

So you want to go against those founding documents then.


Grape
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'So you want to go against those founding documents then. "

No, i'm simply stating those who hate America are not worthy.
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Thank you, albaby.

You are exactly right.


Exactly.

I love our country and don't want to "give it back".

(I think I may be sending my TV back though....and spend more time at the public library,)

jz
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I'd like to see Albaby and bcairns further explore bcairns' feeling that a "cultural monopoly" has been established by a group he calls "the left."
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