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Author: sunonun Big red star, 1000 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 32  
Subject: Re: A question Date: 1/16/2002 4:21 PM
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Ted,

To me the "U" postition is like God saying, eenie, meenie, minie, mo, this one is saved, this one who does not even exist yet is doomed to eternal hell. Yes an all powerful God could do this but would He? Its like God is saying, "I'm going to send this not yet created being to Hell just to prove I'm all powerful." Why should an onmipotent God need to prove anything?

You're hitting the nail repeatedly. The God of the Calvinist is completely controlling in all things. Nothing happens except by His will. Without even knowing it, John Calvin put the sovereignty of God in a box.

God is so much bigger than the "U" doctrine gives Him credit for being.
For example, which of these takes more greatness?
1. Creating a car engine that only runs if the creator manually moves and activates each part.
2. Creating a car engine that runs on its own with minimal work on the part of the creator.

To me, the answer is #2, by far.
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The answer from any perspective is that it's God's will that this happen.

From my point of view, a God like this would not be worthy of worship and praise.

Let me clarify. It is God's will that people are born. It is not God's will in operation that causes some/most/all of them to go to hell.
(This is, of course, an Arminian perpective)

Also just discussing, but not wanting to teach my opinion as if it were fact.

sunonun
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