tenworlds:I'm in training for a new position so I'm only here for a few moments.This;"You were talking spiritually and morally and Seattle Pioneer is an avowed atheist and feels no moral responsibility to his fellow man." doesn't make sense to me. I'm atheist, but feel a strong responsibility toward humankind, well actually life in general. Call it morals, or ethics, whatever... Being atheist does not relieve one of their humanity, and morals that are 'conditional', that is, tied to a reward/punishment ethic, are not moral at all. It's merely an authoritarian control mechanism. When we accept responsibility for our own actions, when we adopt an internal locus of control, then we are being truly moral. What is morality, ie; what defines right & wrong, is a-whole-nother topic, but morality does not come from some outside agent or a reward/punishment system of control.As I said, I'm atheist and I care what happens to my fellow travelers.I understand this completely. Before my conversion to Evangelical Christianity, you probably could have considered me an agnostic. Although, I bounced back and forth between "new age" spiritualism to agnosticism.But regardless, of where I've been in my life spiritually, I've always had the desire to help people, without regard to personal gain or reward. That is, except for the extreme satisfaction I get from helping, volunteering or giving to others. I especially enjoy helping/teaching others to learn to be self-sufficient themselves.Hee hee. Ask my 3 kids. By the time they were 13, they could run our household inside and outside; buy groceries; balance a checkbook; pretty much fend for themselves and act more adultlike than most Americans. There favorite uncle would tell them that after WWIII, all that would be left would be cochroaches and Reed's (my last name).Anyway, I understand complete why SP would help with the boy scouts. THere is nothing more satisfying than mentoring a young mind to learn to be ethical, self-reliant and grow up to be a productive citizen. Nothing I've ever done compares to that mission, regardless of your faith of choice. And the Boy Scouts do an excelent job of that for the most part.Regards,decath
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