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Author: epona4 Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 317  
Subject: The boy is driving me nuts Date: 1/31/2007 6:45 PM
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So, one of the things that got me to thinking that I might have ADD is I have often wondered if DS has ADD. Well, I recently heard that kids with ADD typically have at least one parent with ADD...and so on.

Well here we are. DS sitting down to do his homework (after some "discussion") drumming away at whatever is at his desk. The excess noise is driving me batty and I can't stand it. He can't seem to help himself. Always with the fidgitting and the noise making. And excess noise drives me nutty.

We are quite a pair.

Can I throw him out the window? We're only on the first floor. It wouldn't hurt much. Of course there'd be the issue of getting his big ol' size 13 boot to go through it.

...sigh...

b
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Subject: Re: The boy is driving me nuts Date: 1/31/2007 8:02 PM
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Hey b,

He can't seem to help himself.

That I can fully appreciate...And this I didn't really realize until one day a coupla years ago in College...

I'm sitting in the College cafeteria studying for a test. The cafeteria is FULL and quite NOISY, but it did not bother me in the slightest. As I'm sitting there fully engrossed* in what I was reading, I get tapped on the shoulder, snapping me back to "reality."

I turn around to find a female friend of my brother's sitting there looking at me somewhat strangely. She asked me, "How do you do that?"

Since I have no clue what she's talking about, I ask her to please explain.

She says, "I've been watching you for about ten minutes now. The noise in here is damn near deafening and yet you're totally oblivious to the noise, fully engrossed* (...her word, not mine...) in what you're reading and are playing a tune with your fingers. You're not just tapping your fingers in a nervous kind of way, but actually tapping out a tune that you're "listening to" in your head. How do you do that!!??"

I replied that I really didn't know "how" I was capable of that, but that maybe it was related to my living with my Grandparents. I explained that they have (..."had" at that time...) a Taxi Cab business, that I had been around since I was 7...We had three phones for our business, between 10 to 20 phones we answered for other companies as an answering service (...most were after-hours (...5 to 7pm or later...) service only...) and having between four to seven Taxi drivers we needed to dispatch to calls, along with numerous "kids" (...brother and sisters...) constantly running in and out of the office, and even having the TV on to watch a regular show, I just got "used to it."

She was floored, but still didn't quite "get it." Neither did I at the time because I had never heard of, or if I had, never paid attention to ADD/ADHD "stuff."

So, I understand where your son is coming from as it drives my wife nuts with all'a my foot/feet tamping/twitching, knee bouncing, and finger drumming. She says I even twitch my feet while sleeping. Poor kid.

I also understand where you're coming from as onna my kids is a finger drummer and it drives me nuts!! I have to continuously remind myself that I do this too and not to "attack" him when he does this. It ain't too difficult though as the boy is 6'2" and about 200 lbs...I'm 6'3" and only 160lbs. <bg>

Can I throw him out the window? We're only on the first floor. It wouldn't hurt much. Of course there'd be the issue of getting his big ol' size 13 boot to go through it.

LOL...To this day I will still say that I'm surprised that NO ONE in my family ever decided to kill me because of all the "havoc" I reeked. However, please remember that that size 13 boot just may wanna "kick back" someday and if it happens to hit a particular hole, it just may hurt a little bit. ;-)

ßillƒ

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Subject: Re: The boy is driving me nuts Date: 1/31/2007 8:13 PM
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However, please remember that that size 13 boot just may wanna "kick back" someday and if it happens to hit a particular hole, it just may hurt a little bit. ;-)

He's testin' that idea. ;) He's taller than me now, but I still wrestle him to the ground. Not out of anger. We're goofing off. But it's kind of letting him know that "Mama can still take care of herself". ;)

Of course it is funny. He is still very protective of me.

He's a good boy. (except when he is fight with his younger sister. Here he is the biggest kid in the family and she is the smallest. Yet she pushes his buttons faster than anyone. And she wants to take him on!! Feisty little thing, when it comes to her big brother. (reminds me of those "benny hens". Or that's what my grandma called them. Smallest chickens in the yard, but the meanest)

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Subject: Re: The boy is driving me nuts Date: 1/31/2007 8:28 PM
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He is still very protective of me.

Awww, he's a good boy! Give him a pat on the back for me!!

Here he is the biggest kid in the family and she is the smallest. Yet she pushes his buttons faster than anyone. And she wants to take him on!! Feisty little thing, when it comes to her big brother.

LOL...Good Girl! Give her a pat on the backl for me too!! <bg>

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Subject: Re: The boy is driving me nuts Date: 1/31/2007 9:59 PM
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From my docotor's web site:

Physicians and ADHD Diagnosis
Question: Can my physician diagnose and treat ADHD in adults or is a specialist required?

Answer: In a recent survey the majority of primary care doctors felt comfortable diagnosing and treating anxiety disorders (85%) and depression (95%) in adults. Only 15% were comfortable diagnosing and treating ADHD. The main reason the majority of primary care doctors have not become comfortable with ADHD is that the best medications are stimulants that in many states require a special prescription and are more likely to cause problems with regulatory agencies or diversion of medication for non-medical purposes. Unfortunately some doctors will prescribe non-controlled medications such as Strattera, Wellbutrin XL or other medications as the first line treatment. Multiple studies have shown that stimulants are about twice as effective as other medications for ADHD. Some people may wrongly assume that their suboptimal response to non-stimulants means they're not really ADHD or that treatments are not particularly useful.


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Subject: Re: The boy is driving me nuts Date: 1/31/2007 10:03 PM
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From my docotor's web site:

ADHD Causes
Question: What causes ADHD?

Answer: Personality is thought to be 1/2 temperament which is primarily genetic. But personality disorders are thought to be primarily learned, maladaptive, and mostly deficits in character development. ADHD on the other hand has been found to be 75% genetically determined. Studies include comparing ADHD identical vs. fraternal twins and studying individuals who have been adopted at birth. The likelihood that they will turn out to be ADHD primarily correlates with the presence or absence of these traits in their biologic parents not their adoptive parents. This is much less true for personality disorders or character.

So whether we are ADHD is mainly (75%) determined by how we choose our parents and the luck of the draw. What about the other 25%? Several things have been found to increase the chances that ADHD traits in childhood will continue into adult life. This includes early childhood trauma and neglect which increase risk/severity of ADHD symptoms. Early exposure to television correlates with increased severity of ADHD symptoms also. Undoubtedly being exposed to high stimulation such as computer games, or maybe even computers themselves will result in brain adaptations that might make it harder to focus in low stimulation settings. Modern lifestyle with the demands for multi-tasking will be more difficult for “all or none” ADHD personalities.



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Subject: Re: The boy is driving me nuts Date: 1/31/2007 10:08 PM
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My doctor's credintials...

Dr. Xs' specialties include ADHD, depression, anxiety disorders, bipolar disorder, insomnia, and developing innovative pharmacological management of refractory disorders. He has given over 1,200 presentations on stress disorders teaching primary care physicians as well as psychiatrists.

Dr. X always stays on the “cutting edge” of stress disorders by attending over 200 hours of continuing education courses himself each year.

Graduate of Southwestern Medical School, Dallas, in 1968
Board certified in Psychiatry/Neurology 1975
Certified Clinical Psychopharmacologist 1998, 2003
Has had a private practice clinic in the Dallas area since 1974




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Author: epona4 Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 134 of 317
Subject: Re: The boy is driving me nuts Date: 2/1/2007 8:12 AM
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SoccerDad,

Thanks for the info. Esp. about the doctor.

I'm still looking for someone in my area...but then I get started doing something else and forget.

OK...THIS MORNING: I will look for a doctor or pdoc in my area that deals with AD/HD!!

Hmmmm....maybe I should put that on a sticky note or something.

b

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