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The Sarah Palin thread got me thinking.

I sat my teens down a few years ago and explained the facts of life to them. This is how I put it:

I said "You will need to make a living. Dad and I aren't rich enough to support you for your whole life. There are four basic ways to do this. One is to use your back - your physical strength. Construction work, factory work, drive a truck - like that. The second is to use your brains. Get a degree in something you like. The third is if you have some natural talent, such as music or acting or whatnot that you can do better than most and have a passion for. The fourth is sales ability - being able to connect with people and get them to vote for you or buy whatever it is you're selling.

That's about it. Decide which of these four is your strength, and go with it."

Sarah P is a natural salesman, as are all politicians. She just isn't intellectually qualified to be put in charge of much more than an ice cream stand. Her ardent defenders are not able to come up with proof of anything she's accomplished to dispute this and are even willing to bend history in her defense, which baffles me.

By the way, my kids decided on #2. They're going the college route. Which, to me, is easier than the other three....not easy, mind you, but in the long run easier than a sore back or wooing the fickle public.

SG

"That's the fact, Jack!"
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"By the way, my kids decided on #2. They're going the college route. Which, to me, is easier than the other three....not easy, mind you, but in the long run easier than a sore back or wooing the fickle public." -
SG

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Going to college is tremendous fun. Meeting intelligent and interesting educated people, time to grow up, finding yourself, swimming in the University pool, going to the student center and people watching, college activities like concerts and movies and lectures.

I'm not a fan of reincarnation and most of life I wouldn't want to do over, but being young again and just starting college was great. What a grand and interesting time of life!

Art
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"Going to college is tremendous fun. Meeting intelligent and interesting educated people, time to grow up, finding yourself, swimming in the University pool, going to the student center and people watching, college activities like concerts and movies and lectures. I'm not a fan of reincarnation and most of life I wouldn't want to do over, but being young again and just starting college was great. What a grand and interesting time of life!" - Art
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And dating! I forgot dating. It was so weird (I wasn't very good at it) but it was interesting. It was different than high school. More intense, serious, and passionate.

Art
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"I sat my teens down a few years ago and explained the facts of life to them. This is how I put it:

I said "You will need to make a living. Dad and I aren't rich enough to support you for your whole life. There are four basic ways to do this. One is to use your back - your physical strength. Construction work, factory work, drive a truck - like that. The second is to use your brains. Get a degree in something you like. The third is if you have some natural talent, such as music or acting or whatnot that you can do better than most and have a passion for. The fourth is sales ability - being able to connect with people and get them to vote for you or buy whatever it is you're selling. "

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In high school, I cut a few lawns a week and shoveled a few driveways in the winter time...made a few spending bucks....

THe summer before college I worked a dozen jobs through Manpower temp agency...some just a day, some for a week....everything from 'shipping books'...... to just 'doing a survey' at an event...... to sorting things at another company.....made some spending bucks...

Worked one summer for six weeks at the Ford Assembly Plant in Mahwah NJ on the assembly line....real good pay, 11 hours a night.....but boring as heck after 3 days...... there were a lot of people there who did the mindless job and loved it...all they talked about was how they were going to spend their money (it was night shift bonus, plus about 14 hours pay a day for them - would be like $1500 a week or more today....heck, it was $200 a week back in 1966.....) when minimum wage was about a buck an hour.

One summer I worked for NY Tel co.....OK job...but after 2 weeks you knew how to do it....and it didn't change much...but lots of happy people there with a 'steady job' and benefits....

Another summer worked at a TV/AM/FM station as a 'summer broadcast engineer' so the regular folks could take off....not especially challenging and after 8 weeks you pretty well knew it...the senior guy had a interesting job fixing and putting in new technology but most of the others it was the same routine day in and out...but good pay for the job.....

I stayed in college...it was a grind but also a lot of fun at times.......but not much dating...heck - only 30 women and 1000 men.....

I could see the handwriting on the wall....much better pay and interesting jobs as an engineer with a degree..... plus, Uncle Sam had an open invitation to anyone not in college and over 18 at that time to spend 2-4 years in Vietnam........ so even more incentive to stay in college.


t.
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"I stayed in college...it was a grind but also a lot of fun at times.......but not much dating...heck - only 30 women and 1000 men." Tele


LOL! Not very good odds! I also imagine that engineering was so difficult that you had to study your butt off to succeed. Not a lot of time for girls.

I was an Animal Science major in the College of Agriculture but there were a lot of girls in all my other classes. I got married pretty quick after I went back to college after dropping out for a year and half. I didn't like being single and dating. It was too much work for too little return. Sort of like going to an expensive restaurant that serves small portions!

Anyway I met my wife and she and I hit it off and decided to just go on ahead and get married and move into UGA Married Student Housing. My grades shot up after I got married. My freshman year I did terrible but after I got married my GPA went up every quarter. I even made the Dean's list a couple of quarters after I got married. It was just so much easier to study and make good grades when I wasn't out chasing girls!

Art
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<<I said "You will need to make a living. Dad and I aren't rich enough to support you for your whole life. There are four basic ways to do this. One is to use your back - your physical strength. Construction work, factory work, drive a truck - like that. The second is to use your brains. Get a degree in something you like. The third is if you have some natural talent, such as music or acting or whatnot that you can do better than most and have a passion for. The fourth is sales ability - being able to connect with people and get them to vote for you or buy whatever it is you're selling.

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Ummm. I don't think your list includes the skilled trades. While they often involve physical labor, that's not the primary reason tradesman are relatively well paid. They have real skills and knowledge that is needed to make stuff and keep it working.

I'd add that as an additional category, although perhaps you were using your story to direct your children in a direction that you happened to like.



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<<Going to college is tremendous fun. Meeting intelligent and interesting educated people, time to grow up, finding yourself, swimming in the University pool, going to the student center and people watching, college activities like concerts and movies and lectures.

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I supported myself and paid my personal and college costs by working retail jobs. Not a tremendous amount of fun. A lot of WORK combined with the satisfaction of learning new stuff.



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