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Author: LurkerMom Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 1962083  
Subject: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/21/2014 7:56 AM
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Another line crossed
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"No sooner did President Obama publicly warn that “there will be consequences if people step over the line” in Kiev than a hastily declared truce evaporated Thursday in a wave of bloodshed. So much for Obama’s threats. Fact is, the president showed just how credible his warnings are when he allowed Syria to cross his chemical-weapons “red line” with impunity. Other retreats and concessions by Washington — in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Russia and elsewhere — have only reinforced America’s image as weak and not to be feared. America is quickly losing its ability to shape world events. And in Ukraine, it’s beyond tragic."

http://nypost.com/2014/02/21/another-line-crossed/
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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/21/2014 12:35 PM
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Yet Syria was forced to surrender those WMDs and they are, in fact, being destroyed. All because of the threat of US action. That is something your "Wet Noodle News Source" is omitting. More importantly, why are you not mentioning that fact? Or is that another "inconvenient truth"?

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/21/2014 1:40 PM
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Yet Syria was forced to surrender those WMDs and they are, in fact, being destroyed. All because of the threat of US action. That is something your "Wet Noodle News Source" is omitting. More importantly, why are you not mentioning that fact? Or is that another "inconvenient truth"?


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Oh really? The credit belongs to Russia. Putin made an a$$ out of the prez.

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"Russia to push Syria to surrender chemical weapons
President Vladimir Putin said that Moscow would keep providing assistance to Syria in case of US attack, but he and other Russian officials have made clear that Russia has no intention to engage in hostilities."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4427648,00.html

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"Putin (background – ass-kicking KGB operative) sees a way to take advantage of this situation to both embarrass and establish a stronger dominance over Obama (background – pot-smoking community organizer). Putin heard John Kerry make a bit of a mistake at a presser. Kerry is asked what Assad can do to avoid an attack. The Poodle suggests that Assad could turn over his chemical weapons. The White House immediately refutes the idea, and Kerry’s handlers start trying to walk the comment back. But Putin was listening … and he makes his move.

Putin, loyal to his primary goal here is to keep his pal Assad in power, immediately seizes on Kerry’s idea and makes it a firm proposal. Just that quickly Putin takes control.

Now Obama sees a way out. He knows that Putin is controlling the situation here, but at least now he can avoid an embarrassing congressional “no” vote, the first in American history. But hmmmmmm. Maybe Obama can get some of his grove back here. So he tells us that he was actually talking about this plan for Assad to give up his chemical weapons when he was meeting with Putin last week! Yeah … sure.

http://townhall.com/columnists/nealboortz/2013/09/10/putin-p...

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/21/2014 1:54 PM
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People don't realize what the Ukraine means to Russia. Take them out of Putin's orbit and Russia loses all influence in Eastern Europe. Put Putin's toadies in charge there and you have big bad Russia causing trouble all over the place there.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/21/2014 3:50 PM
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Oh really? The credit belongs to Russia. Putin made an a$$ out of the prez.

Oh really. Your statement, quoted above, documents how little you actually comprehend about what happened. Obama played Putin like a master in that situation. Putin was boxed in by Obama--nothing more, nothing less.

If Putin did NOT act, Obama (and other nations acting in a coalition) would act against Syria. Putin saw the "handwriting on the wall"--as did Assad and virtually everyone else who had a clue. Putin knew he had been outplayed by Obama. Putin did what Obama wanted--to get the WMDs in Syria destroyed. You missed that fact completely. Those who really know how to play know how to make their "behind the scenes" activities--the real power--invisible to those who are less able. You swallowed the right wing nonsense (Obama did nothing) hook, line, and sinker when the reality was Obama was the real power who forced Putin to act. Otherwise Putin would face the potential loss of their only Mediterranean sea port--in Syria.

The question was not "if" there would be action to find and destroy the WMDs in Syria. It was merely who was going to do it and when. Putin blinked because he had more to lose.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/21/2014 6:35 PM
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If Putin did NOT act, Obama (and other nations acting in a coalition) would act against Syria.

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What coalition? The Brits said NO! The prez could not get the United Nations Security Council to authorize a strike and the prez could not assemble a coalition of allies against Syria. Even the U.S. Congress and the American people told the prez NO!

Face it...the truth is Putin made an a$$ of the prez. The world sees the prez for the fool he is...drawing one yellow line after another in the sand, then trying to walk back his stupidity.

Oh, and who is still in power in Syria? What is he doing behind closed doors? Do you really believe Syria turned over ALL the weapons? Don't you think Putin will rearm his ally and probable friend, Assad?

The prez stands alone, humiliated then and now.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/22/2014 5:38 PM
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What is he doing behind closed doors?

As I stated, you have no clue what is really happening or why. You will be provided the info you need to know once it is safe to show it to you. Your conservative leadership refuses to tell you what THEY think should be done (and why) because they also do not have clue. Who's your daddy?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-i-understand-american-peop...

'(CBS News) WASHINGTON -- In an interview Monday, President Obama responded to a surprising late proposal that could head off a military strike against Syria. The Syrians agreed to a Russian proposal to put their chemical weapons under international control and destroy them.'

What did Obama say he wanted done?

'PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, as I said, the key is -- to paraphrase Ronald Reagan, that we don't just trust, but we also verify. And so the-- the importance is to make sure that the international community has confidence that these chemical weapons are under control, that they are not being used, that potentially they are removed from Syria and that they are destroyed. And there are a lot of stockpiles inside of Syria, it's one of the largest in the world.'

Obama got exactly what he wanted. Obama made "verification" part of the requirements. It is all in writing before you--and you choose to ignore it. Obama trapped Putin and Putin is doing what Obama wanted done.

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Author: LurkerMom Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 1923673 of 1962083
Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/22/2014 10:36 PM
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Thank you for the link...You proved my point

per your quote...

"'(CBS News) WASHINGTON -- In an interview Monday, President Obama responded to a surprising late proposal that could head off a military strike against Syria. The Syrians agreed to a Russian proposal to put their chemical weapons under international control and destroy them.'"

Your link proves Putin walked the walk. Putin brokered the deal.
The prez talked, talked, talked, talked talked the talk.

No World Leader fears the prez and his blusterous yellow lines drawn in the sand. The prez stood alone on Syria, no allies to back him, not the United Nations Security Council not even the U.S. Congress nor the American people.

I already linked you this...
"Now Obama sees a way out. He knows that Putin is controlling the situation here, but at least now he can avoid an embarrassing congressional “no” vote, the first in American history. But hmmmmmm. Maybe Obama can get some of his grove back here. So he tells us that he was actually talking about this plan for Assad to give up his chemical weapons when he was meeting with Putin last week! Yeah … sure."

http://townhall.com/columnists/nealboortz/2013/09/10/putin-p......

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/22/2014 10:46 PM
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Obama got exactly what he wanted. Obama made "verification" part of the requirements. It is all in writing before you--and you choose to ignore it. Obama trapped Putin and Putin is doing what Obama wanted done.

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Exactly.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/22/2014 11:56 PM
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Thank you for the link...You proved my point

Let us see what YOU said was the point:

"The Syrians agreed to a Russian proposal to put their chemical weapons under international control and destroy them."

The REAL point was the sentence just before that one, and I have bolded the relevant portion for your edification:

"In an interview Monday, President Obama responded to a surprising late proposal that could head off a military strike against Syria."

The US strike was going to happen if the situation did not change. Both Putin AND Assad knew it. That would put the only Russian sea base in the Mediterranean (in Syria) at risk as well. They could not prevent a US strike unless Assad agreed to what Obama wanted. So Putin made faces and they did exactly what Obama wanted.

No World Leader fears the prez and his blusterous yellow lines drawn in the sand.

Assad was afraid of a US strike. Putin also. Hence the deal with Obama's handwriting all over it--doing exactly what Obama wanted.

Putin was putty in Obama's hands. And you missed it completely.

Checkmate.


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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/23/2014 9:19 AM
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"No World Leader fears the prez and his blusterous yellow lines drawn in the sand."

Assad was afraid of a US strike. Putin also. Hence the deal with Obama's handwriting all over it--doing exactly what Obama wanted.

Putin was putty in Obama's hands. And you missed it completely.

Checkmate

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Assad was not afraid of a yellow line attack. Assad had Putin covering his back while the prez had no one, absolutely no one.
Face the fact...Putin succeeded in making the prez appear to be weak and a fool in dealing with Syria.

Checkmate? Indeed...your king (the prez) has been taken. Putin won the chess game.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/23/2014 9:24 AM
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Assad was not afraid of a yellow line attack. Assad had Putin covering his back while the prez had no one, absolutely no one.
Face the fact...Putin succeeded in making the prez appear to be weak and a fool in dealing with Syria.
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Isn't that a little like saying Da Vinci's Last Supper appears to be a picture of The Last Supper?

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/23/2014 1:56 PM
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Assad was not afraid of a yellow line attack. Assad had Putin covering his back while the prez had no one, absolutely no one.

A. If you are not afraid, you do not change what you are doing. Assad was using WMDs within Syria. So if he was NOT afraid (per you), then he just keeps the WMDs and keeps on killing using them.

B. If you are afraid, you change what you are doing. Assad was using WMDs within Syria. If he WAS afraid, then he stops using the WMDs because he knows there might be consequences that could get him killed and/or deposed. You might understand it better when called "regime change". That was the one thing Putin did not want to happen because that would threaten the *only* Russian port on the Mediterranean--which is/was in Syria.

Tell us, which did Assad and Putin do: A or B.

Assad could NOT get Putin to protect him. Both knew the consequences.

So Assad gave up his WMDs--exactly as Obama wanted. Putin was merely the window-dressing to cover Assad's butt when they both bent over for Obama.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/23/2014 4:44 PM
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So Assad gave up his WMDs--exactly as Obama wanted. Putin was merely the window-dressing to cover Assad's butt when they both bent over for Obama.


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Nope. Assad "gave up" his WMDs because he bowed to Putins wishes. The prez tried to cash in on Putin's success. The End.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/23/2014 4:45 PM
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"Nope. Assad "gave up" his WMDs because he bowed to Putins wishes. The prez tried to cash in on Putin's success. The End. "

Obama is Putin's pawn to move as he wishes.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/23/2014 5:12 PM
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Assad hasn't given up his WMD's and likely won't. If anything thanks to Russian cash and weapons he's gotten stronger. Heckuva job by Hillary!, Kerry and Obama.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/23/2014 5:25 PM
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Jerry, For your reading pleasure.....


"In his first campaign for president, in April 2007, Barack Obama complained George W. Bush's war in Iraq cost the U.S. "in influence and respect."
Because of Iraq, he said, "many around the world are disappointed with our actions, and many in our own country have come to doubt either our wisdom or our capacity to shape events beyond our borders. Some have even suggested that America's time has passed."
To rectify this, Obama promised when he is president the U.S. would lead "the world toward a new era of global cooperation." He pledged "to rebuild and construct the alliances and partnerships necessary to meet common challenges and confront common threats."
Today, it is clear that this president has done exactly the opposite. Tragically, our allies now even laugh at us.
Never has the possibility been more seriously discussed of America being in serious decline. And as to doubts regarding our nation's wisdom and capacity "to shape events beyond our borders," one need only look at the particulars of this president's foreign policy to see example after example of exactly such impotence — Syria, Egypt, Iran, Libya, China, to name but a few.
Allies warn of the serious harm Obama has done.
For instance, war historian Sir Hew Strachan, adviser to Britain's chief of the defense staff and author of soon-to-be-published "The Direction of War," told the Daily Beast this week that "Obama has no sense of what he wants to do in the world."
He pointed especially to the debacle last year on Syria's alleged use of chemical weapons. Strachan called Obama's handling of that "crazy," with the U.S. actually enhancing the power of Syrian terrorist ruler Bashar al-Assad, undermining the U.S.' military reputation, and destabilizing the Middle East to boot.
"What he's done in talking about red lines in relation to Syria has actually devalued the deterrent effect of American military capability," Strachan charged, referring to Obama's broken commitment to intervene if Assad was seen to use chemical weapons.
Strachan also cited Obama's strategic failure in Afghanistan, where U.S. withdrawal makes the return of the Taliban inevitable. The Afghan and Syria messes have crippled us as a global military power, he says."


Read More At Investor's Business Daily: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/011614-686711-allie...

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/23/2014 5:56 PM
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Obama's broken commitment to intervene if Assad was seen to use chemical weapons.

You missed this part of the portion you quoted. Obama was preparing to strike--that was clearly stated in the CBS News piece. So there was no "broken" promise anywhere on Obama's part.

Obama wanted the WMDs gone from Syria.

And that is what has happened.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/11/06/333206/destruction-...

Putin and Assad did exactly what Obama wanted.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/23/2014 6:40 PM
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Obama was preparing to strike-

Putin and Assad did exactly what Obama wanted.

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The prez was preparing to strike? With what? The prez had a coalition of absolutely nobody. You think Assad was shaking in his shoes over any threats from the prez? lol. I guess the prez thought he could don his Rambo costume and go it alone. Right, that would scare Assad.

Here is something else for your reading pleasure...

"Kerry Tells Senators That Obama Syria Policy Is Collapsing"

"Two prominent Republican senators say that U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry told them -- along with 13 other members of a bipartisan congressional delegation -- that President Barack Obama's administration is in need of a new, more assertive, Syria policy; that al-Qaeda-affiliated groups in Syria pose a direct terrorist threat to the U.S. homeland; that Russia is arming the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, and is generally subverting chances for a peaceful settlement; that Assad is violating his promise to expeditiously part with his massive stores of chemical weapons; and that, in Kerry's view, it may be time to consider more dramatic arming of moderate Syrian rebel factions."

Yep, right from the mouth of John Kerry...How's that again Putin and Assad did exactly what the prez wanted?

Putin played the prez for a fool.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-03/kerry-tells-members...

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/24/2014 12:47 AM
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[ Assad was not afraid of a yellow line attack. Assad had Putin covering his back while the prez had no one, absolutely no one. ]

Who in the world thinks this statement even makes any sense? Putin didn't cover Assad's back. And the President of the United States needs no one to cover his.

"So Assad gave up his WMDs--exactly as Obama wanted. Putin was merely the window-dressing to cover Assad's butt when they both bent over for Obama."

Well put, and the reality of the situation reflects exactly that.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/24/2014 11:11 AM
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You think Assad was shaking in his shoes over any threats from the prez?

Assad was scared. So was Putin--because he could do nothing to stop the US military strike *unless* Assad got rid of the WMDs, and did so publicly.

Assad and Putin made the deal Obama wanted--and the military strike was no longer needed.

That is called an appropriate use of power. The real problem you have is neither Reagan nor Bush had that much real power.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/24/2014 11:42 AM
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Assad was scared. So was Putin--because he could do nothing to stop the US military strike *unless* Assad got rid of the WMDs, and did so publicly.


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lol...What military attacks? With what? Both Putin and Assad knew the prez was acting alone with no one to turn to or help him. The prez had a coalition of no one, no authorization from the UN or Congress plus no backing from the American people.

You can keep on with the same rant and I will just continue to give you the same answer...the community organizer is not nor ever will be nothing more than a blowhard idiot compared to the ex-KGB Putin and the ruthless unmerciful Assad...The two of 'em are a team playing the prez for a fool.

PS: btw, are you nigel's doppel? You are beginning to sound just like him.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/24/2014 12:51 PM
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What military attacks? With what?

ROFLMAO !!

The one(s) planned by Obama from Jordan and elsewhere. Mentioned in the CBS News article--the one you don't like to read. You missed a lot of information--even from Fox News.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/sep/14/world/la-fg-syria-ch...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-...

http://swampland.time.com/2013/09/10/obama-makes-case-for-st...

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/military-strikes-syria-ear...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/repercussions-us-military-strike-sy...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-military-ready-to-attack-syri...

http://www.voanews.com/content/us-military-has-multiple-ways...

http://rt.com/usa/us-military-syria-strike-111/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/28/us-laying-groundw...

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114626/us-intervention-sy...

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/08/us-military-pre...

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/24/2014 1:12 PM
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LurkerMom: lol...What military attacks? With what?

Ask Osama Bin Ladin.

Oooh, wait... you can't.

Nevermind.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/24/2014 2:34 PM
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What military attacks? With what?

ROFLMAO !!

The one(s) planned by Obama from Jordan and elsewhere. Mentioned in the CBS News article--the one you don't like to read. You missed a lot of information--even from Fox News.



This link is 5 months old and no agreement has been settled on.
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/sep/14/world/la-fg-syria-ch......

moot. The prez did not get approval from Congress to take military action.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-......

A whole lot of talkin' from the prez...no results.
http://swampland.time.com/2013/09/10/obama-makes-case-for-st......

Yawn...more blowhard threats. Same with the rest of your links. No need to go any further.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/military-strikes-syria-ear......


The fact is blowhard prez convinced no one least of all Assad and Putin.

The prez results? As I told you yesterday...

"Kerry Tells Senators That Obama Syria Policy Is Collapsing"

"Two prominent Republican senators say that U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry told them -- along with 13 other members of a bipartisan congressional delegation -- that President Barack Obama's administration is in need of a new, more assertive, Syria policy; that al-Qaeda-affiliated groups in Syria pose a direct terrorist threat to the U.S. homeland; that Russia is arming the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, and is generally subverting chances for a peaceful settlement; that Assad is violating his promise to expeditiously part with his massive stores of chemical weapons; and that, in Kerry's view, it may be time to consider more dramatic arming of moderate Syrian rebel factions."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-03/kerry-tells-members...

The prez never had a Syria Policy. He only thought so. Putin and Assad are playing him. Meanwhile Russia is arming Assad...That fact came right from the mouth of John Kerry.

So keep it up Jerry or is it nigel? You are keeping me amused during coffee/pepsi breaks. Time to go back working on my tan while here in sunny Florida. :)

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/24/2014 3:06 PM
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LurkerMom: lol...What military attacks? With what?

Ask Osama Bin Ladin.

Oooh, wait... you can't.

Nevermind.

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al Qaeda is bigger and stronger...so a whole lotta good came from killing OBL...NOT.
Embarrassing isn't it the prez was out golfing while Panetta called the shots?

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/24/2014 3:34 PM
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The one(s) planned by Obama from Jordan and elsewhere.

The POTUS was headed toward defeat on his plan to get congresional approval to attack - and he would have faced massive opposition from his own party if he had acted without such approval after stating that he wanted their consent to act.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/25/2014 12:06 PM
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What military attacks? With what?

What Putin and Assad saw and could verify independently.

In other words, *real* stuff in the *real* world.

Found those WMDs in Iraq yet?

They found WMDs in Syria. And the WMDs in Syria are being destroyed. Exactly as Obama desired--with no US military action required.

THAT is what burns you up the most.

Conservatives to to wars and fail to attain their objectives.

Obama DIDN'T go to war and got exactly what he said he wanted.

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Subject: Re: The prez Wet Noodle Threat Date: 2/25/2014 12:16 PM
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Obama DIDN'T go to war and got exactly what he said he wanted.


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That's because the chicken hawk never served yellow line prez was afraid. He had to go at it all by his lonesome.

Meanwhile Putin is arming Assad. John Kerry told us that fact.

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