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The socialist/far-left view which is evidently the view held by Obama & co. is that the default taxation rate is or should be 100%.

I guess you have to perpetuate lies like this to justify the views you hold.

What about this statement do you consider a "lie" and why do you think I am trying to "perpetuate" it? Do you not know what "socialism" is? If you had ever taken a graduate-level corporate taxation class, with a leftist professor, at a world-renowned university, as I have in the past, you would perhaps understand that there is a large body of economic and legal theory/philosophy underlying far-left/socialist tax

policy. In effect that body of leftist theory, as I understand it, holds that the government has unlimited power to tax wealth and income. Further, that body of theory holds that any wealth or income which is seemingly generated by "individuals" actually derives from the state. The existence of the State is a condition precedent for the accumulation of wealth and income by the individual. Further individuals are commoditized and fungible; the State does not need any particular individual to contribute to wealth generation and therefore there is no individual entitlement to retain the fruits of one's labor. Rather all decisions related to taxation are optional, political ones.

This notion is clearly reflected by various popular leftists here at TMF such as goofy hoofy, which is why I referenced his comments about NASA in my prior post. You will also frequently see others at TMF making very similar comments. Those making them don't seem to realize that they are simply echoing a popularized or bowdlerized version of a specific academic/philosophical concept of what taxation is and why it exists. This far leftist view is of course fundamentally in opposition to the "conservative" or "libertarian" idea of "individual rights" and the "right to life, liberty and property."

If you still don't believe me and you don't have the time or inclination to actually do independent research on radical leftist taxation theory, then simply get the White Album (I think that's the album this song was on) and play the Beatles' song, "Taxman," and actually listen to the lyrics. At one point there is a lyric that says something like, "There's one for you, nineteen for me--I'm the TAXMAN! Yeah, the TAXMAN!" That particular lyric is a specific reference to the confiscatory marginal taxation rate in Great Britain, at the time the song was written sometime in the mid 1960's, of 95%. (Admittedly this is not quite 100%.) A 1-19 ratio between John, Paul, George and Ringo and the "Taxman" equals the 5%-95% ratio.

So you may think I'm a liar, but really, would the Fab Four lie to you?


Somebody who actually believes this tripe must also believe there is no society, there is only the individual, may the most mercenary win.

I'll stick with the Beatles, thanks.
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