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Subject: To: JLC, From: 2828 Date: 3/16/2013 9:35 AM
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http://www.armytimes.com/news/2013/03/military-wait-times-VA...

Internal Veterans Affairs Department documents show that at least two veterans died last year waiting to see a doctor while others couldn’t get primary care appointments for up to eight months, members of a House oversight and investigations panel said Thursday.

Addressing the ongoing problem of vets who suffer through long waits for appointments at VA hospitals and clinics, House lawmakers joined federal investigators and veterans service organizations in castigating VA on an issue that has endured for more than a decade.

“Evidence shows that many VA facilities, when faced with a backlog of thousands of outstanding or unresolved consultations, decided to administratively close out these requests. Some reasons given included that the request was years old, too much time had elapsed, or the veteran had died,” said Rep. Mike Coffman, R-Colo., chairman of the House Veterans Oversight and Investigations panel.

“This is unacceptable,” said Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick, D-Ariz., the panel’s ranking Democrat. “Veterans deserve timely, accessible health care.”

According to VA, about 49 percent of new patients and 90 percent of established patients are able to see a primary care doctor or specialist within VA’s goal of 14 days, a metric established in 2011.

But the first-time patients who weren’t seen within 14 days waited an average 50 days to schedule initial appointments.

Bad data, fudged numbers

VA actually has no idea how long most patients wait, said Debra Draper, health care director at the government’s watchdog agency, the Government Accountability Office, which looked into the matter in December.

“The bottom line is it is unclear how long veterans are waiting to receive care in VA’s medical facilities because the reported data are unreliable,” Draper told the panel.

She said GAO analysts found that more than half of VA’s 50,000 schedulers did not know how to accurately report the information needed to determine wait times, which includes logging the date a veteran wants to be seen as well as the actual date of the appointment.

Others admitted to changing the desired date so the time aligned with VA’s established goal of 14 days.
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Sounds like the NHS.
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Author: JLC Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 675064 of 753344
Subject: Re: To: JLC, From: 2828 Date: 3/18/2013 9:45 AM
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House lawmakers joined federal investigators and veterans service organizations in castigating VA on an issue that has endured for more than a decade.

Well, they are correct on "more than a decade". Its been going on since I was in medical school/residency, so approaching THREE decades.

As a not so funny aside, my dad was air force. And I go medical care through the base hospital being a dependent. Wore glasses for awhile but got tired of having a permanent cut on the bridge of my nose while playing sports (I managed to have/cause collisions even in non-contact sports). Tried for months to get an appointment for contact lenses. Was always told that the list was full, yadda, yadda, yadda. My mother finally said &*#$% and we went off base and had an appointment the next day. Wonder how many eligible vets do this?

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Subject: Re: To: JLC, From: 2828 Date: 3/18/2013 10:02 AM
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Wonder how many eligible vets do this

My Dad. As a Korean War era vet he is entitled to health care through the VA, but he never used it. He said that the waits reminded him of the military.

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Subject: Re: To: JLC, From: 2828 Date: 3/18/2013 12:31 PM
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Wonder how many eligible vets do this?
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I did that with my kids. There was one pediatrician for the entire base, and appointments were impossible.

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Subject: Re: To: JLC, From: 2828 Date: 3/18/2013 1:02 PM
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We've been pretty lucky. Our area has had a fairly decent military health care system* and as retirees, we're eligible for Tricare Prime. If we had to use the VA, forget it. Our VA just shut down it's operating rooms indefinitely due to equipment failures.

*I definitely see a difference in care now vs 10 years ago. Less doctors, more PAs and NPs. And since our region just changed providers to United Healthcare, I'm not too hopeful it will get better.

Always ;-/
Hunzi

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Subject: Re: To: JLC, From: 2828 Date: 3/18/2013 1:09 PM
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Our area has had a fairly decent military health care system* and as retirees, we're eligible for Tricare Prime.

Since DH and I have Medicare with Tricare for life, we just got a statement from Tricare regarding a visit with primary care phys. in January. Out of a 160.00 bill, Tricare paid 15.00. Good grief!

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