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Author: CountUpp Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 445606  
Subject: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/4/2012 11:57 PM
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We are going to Texas for almost two weeks, beginning next Tuesday (So called, because it's the second day of the week, doncha know.)
Initially in New Braunfels, then on to Fredericksburg for the week end (where we will meet up with family), then lastly to San Antonio. We would count it a pleasure to meet some of our AF friends FTF, if possible.

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Author: CountUpp Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 410367 of 445606
Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/4/2012 11:58 PM
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Would also appreciate suggestions - places, activities, restaurants, etc.

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Author: SpeedBump13 Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 410382 of 445606
Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/5/2012 10:33 AM
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Chuy's is legendary Tex-Mex food that also pays tribute to Elvis. I'm not from the area, so there are probably 100 better tasting places to eat, but I liked it. The chain has franchised and went public in July (CHUY). The original is in Austin, not far from the Stevie Ray Vaughn statue. There are two in San Antonio.

A great touristy place is Mi Tierra Cafe. It is colorful, has strolling mariachis, and is located in a Mexican-style market area just west of downtown San Antonio.

With highs above 80 for most of the year, Riverwalk offers shade, food, and alcohol to relax with. If you like to walk, stroll the Riverwalk up past the aquarium to the old brewery, about 2 miles each way. If you don't like to walk, they have boat rides that do the same thing. You can't miss by strolling the inner Riverwalk loop and reading the menus to find the type and price range of food you prefer.

Shiner Bock is the national drink of Texas, and there are also a lot of good micro-brews and mucho tequila.

If you have any interest in military history, you can walk among warplanes at Lackland Air Force Base, the site of Air Force basic training in SW San Antonio. Also, the National Museum of the Pacific War is in Fredricksburg, home of Admiral Nimitz. I have not been.

- Wes

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Author: sissylue Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 410388 of 445606
Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/5/2012 10:55 AM
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I'm going to have to confess to not being a fan of Chuy's. The foods good but no better than a hundred other TexMex places; the decor is corporate "quirky" and cutesy if you like that. What I don't like is the long wait and the crowded conditions since the place is a venerable tradition.

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Author: sissylue Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 410391 of 445606
Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/5/2012 10:59 AM
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Oh, and the River Walk is a tourist trap. But one I really like. Especially when your feet hurt just get in one of those little boats and take a nap. pay no attention to the guy that keeps talking into the microphone. There is a great hotel I wish I could remember it's name. Right in the middle of downtown in an old building, the interior's been refurbished in a stunning art deco style; great, great bar in the basement with food (appetizer type food) that is a very gourmet take on Tex-Mex. The hotel rooms are tiny but ultra luxe.

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Author: sissylue Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 410395 of 445606
Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/5/2012 11:09 AM
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And finally. (Why couldn't I have put this all in one post - I don't know) is Fredericksburg. Total tourist trap town but gotta love the Bed and Brewery (as opposed to the more ubiquitous Beds and Breakfasts). I stop there for no other reason to get my jug filled up with beer. I'll post a picture on FB of my Fredericksburg Beer Jug for you Cliff (right now it's full of vodka and casaba melon chunks) but you'll get the idea. The first time you buy a jug of beer its pricey because you are paying for the jug but after that you can take the jug back for refills at a very reasonable price. I'm going to guess ytour wife will love all the little shops although I find them exhausting. Some very nice stuff. A good winery called ? (I think Two Sisters Creek winery but won't swear to it) but its a drive of 20 (mebbe 30 miles) outside of Fredericksburg and then you get lost and end up cruising rural roads for 3.5 hours trying to figure out where the hell you are. When you finally find the winery it is necessary to buy cases instead of bottles to justify the drive time. A sacrifice I nobly made. Also you will come upon a Russian Orthodaox Church (the interior is breathtaking) in the middle of nowhere which was converted from a mosque and is run by a bunch of monks. Quite honestly I'm not making that up and I wasn't inebriated when I found it.

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Author: SpeedBump13 Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 410402 of 445606
Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/5/2012 11:51 AM
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The foods good but no better than a hundred other TexMex places; the decor is corporate "quirky" and cutesy if you like that. What I don't like is the long wait and the crowded conditions since the place is a venerable tradition.

I tip my hat to your experience and good taste. My mother, my wife, and myself are terrible cooks, so I can feast directly out of a can. When we infrequently eat out, it is usually Chinese or Thai; and when we travel my wife insists on places in the guidebook. She is terrified of uncertainty.

-Wes

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Author: sissylue Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 410419 of 445606
Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/5/2012 12:54 PM
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Oh I didn't mean to imply that Chuy's doesn't have good food - it does ... just not good enough for me to wait in line and put up with a crowd. If you like crowds and are not as decrepit as myself you would probably find the atmosphere and wait festive.

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Author: ChiliChild Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 410422 of 445606
Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/5/2012 1:12 PM
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Ahem.
We've met a few times before, but . . .

I think we owe you a dinner.

Chili
and we're, well, in proximity

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Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/5/2012 1:49 PM
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http://www.missiontrailtours.com/WalkingTours.html

I recommend the San Antonio King William district walking tour in Southtown. Very interesting and informative. Blue Star Arts Complex is down there, as well. You can also take a tour of the missions. Rosario's Restaurant has made a name for itself in the area.

The old Pearl Brewery grounds are north of the main Riverwalk and have been developed into retail and restaurants. You can take one of the river boats to it, get off, walk around, get back on and float back down to the main Riverwalk. http://atpearl.com/

Be sure to walk through the bar at the Menger Hotel, http://www.mengerhotel.com/historic-san-antonio-hotel/ across the street from the Alamo. That bar is where Teddy Roosevelt recruited for the Rough Riders and there are photos and other memorabilia to look at. It's designed after the London House of Lord's pub. Stop. Have a drink. The Alamo had some interior restoration going on this summer when I took Trudy there. The grounds are more interesting, beautiful, really, than the actual building, IMO.

Downtown you can try Luke. http://lukesanantonio.com/ It's in the Embassy Suites on the River and serves American food. If you want to go a bit upscale, try Biga on the Banks. http://www.biga.com/Superlative food, but very spendy. Frederick's is farther out, but very good and spendy and Drew's on Loop 1604 and Stone Oak serves good food. There's Da Vinci Gelato in the same shopping center. It's next to a great sushi place called Sushi Zushi. Ounce Steakhouse on Loop 1604 and, I think, Blanco Road, is supposed to be great, too. Mi Tierra at the farmer's market in San Antonio has really good Tex-Mex. http://www.mitierracafe.com/home.php Boudro's on the Riverwalk is really good, too. http://www.boudros.com/

Check the schedule for the Majestic Theater during the dates you'll be there. http://theatresanantonio.com/?gclid=CN6o5sq26rICFZGPPAodxSkA... It's a great old place. Also the Charlene McCombs Empire is a smaller venue around the corner. http://www.ticketmaster.com/Charline-McCombs-Empire-Theatre-...

New Braunfels is a nice little town with a cute little suburb called Gruene (Green). It's a tourist haven but, at least this time of year, it won't be overrun by toobers (that's local-speak for river tubers). Gruene River Grill serves good food in a lodge-y atmosphere. We love it, but be careful because it can be spicy. Even the dressing on the caesar salad has a kick. http://www.gruenerivergrill.com/ Gristmill is the famous place. It's all right. Impressive bldg, but can be loud. However, this time of year you can sit outside on one of its many decks.http://www.gristmillrestaurant.com/ There's a burger joint across the street next to the antiques store. http://moziesbarandgrill.com/ And there are two wine places in Gruene. It's a good place to stroll around and go in and out of the cute shops.

There are a couple of authentic German restaurants in New Braunfels, Friesenhaus http://www.friesenhausnb.com/menu.htm and Oma's Haus. http://www.omashaus.com/ The first is in downtown and Oma's is just east of I-35 on "the loop" Loop 337/road to Seguin. Huisache is a good restaurant, set back off of San Antonio Street, making it a bit of a challenge to find. http://www.huisache.com/ There's also Liberty Bistro, in the basement of City Hall. http://mylibertybistro.com/home.aspx Also very good. Get a $25 or $50 coupon off of Restraunt.com and go there. Myron's is the steakhouse and my friend from NYC says she had one of the two best steaks she's every had in her life there. McAdoo's is a local seafood place in the original Post Office Bldg. Seafood in New Braunfels? Well, the gulf isn't that far, but still . . .

There are wineries all over the Hill Country and good reviews to go with them. There's one just west of New Braunfels called Dry Comal Creek. http://www.drycomalcreek.com/They have a Spanish red that gets rave reviews when we give it as a gift.

On the way up I-10 to Fredericksburg, take the exit to Comfort and drive through downtown. Won't take but a minute. It's the only town in the South with a monument to the Union Army. It was settled by Germans and they were royally pissed that the war was screwing up commerce. There are a few cutesy shops there, too, but no traffic like you'll find in F'burg, particularly if you're there on a weekend. Very German, just like F'burg, New Braunfels and Gruene. Luckenbach, Texas, of Waylon and Willie and the Boys fame, is on 1376 between F'burg and Blanco. It has gone much more commercial than it was back in the day. Not sure it's worth the stop. http://www.comfortcellars.com/
http://www.hill-country-visitor.com/Comfort_Texas This tells a bit about the the Union sympathizers.

Chili
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Author: ChiliChild Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 410432 of 445606
Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/5/2012 1:51 PM
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http://www.biga.com/

Sorry. The link got messed up with next sentence.

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Author: sissylue Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 410433 of 445606
Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/5/2012 2:05 PM
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On the way up I-10 to Fredericksburg, take the exit to Comfort and drive through downtown. Won't take but a minute. It's the only town in the South with a monument to the Union Army. It was settled by Germans and they were royally pissed that the war was screwing up commerce.

If you take the drive on state highway 87 from Mason to Fredericksburg there's a sign for the settlement of Loyal, a few miles off of the highway. Also settled by Germans the story I always heard was that they took their name from the fact that they remained loyal to the Union during the Civil War. I suspect a lot of the German immigrants in that area weren't exactly thrilled with the Southern take on slavery.

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Author: rmhj Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 410457 of 445606
Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/5/2012 5:48 PM
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Wes: If you have any interest in military history, you can walk among warplanes at Lackland Air Force Base, the site of Air Force basic training in SW San Antonio. Also, the National Museum of the Pacific War is in Fredricksburg, home of Admiral Nimitz. I have not been.

I have, and can vouch for it. It is a good museum, with the only WW II japanese mini-submarine that I have ever seen in person. It is a fairly large museum with a variety of exhibits, and an comfortable place to spend an afternoon or more.

rj

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Author: CountUpp Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 410471 of 445606
Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/5/2012 7:23 PM
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Wes: With highs above 80 for most of the year, Riverwalk offers shade, food, and alcohol to relax with. If you like to walk, stroll the Riverwalk up past the aquarium to the old brewery, about 2 miles each way. If you don't like to walk, they have boat rides that do the same thing. You can't miss by strolling the inner Riverwalk loop and reading the menus to find the type and price range of food you prefer.

Shiner Bock is the national drink of Texas, and there are also a lot of good micro-brews and mucho tequila.


Our resort is the Wyndham Riverside suites https://www.worldmarktheclub.com/resorts/tx/ , right on the Riverwalk. We will definitely be doing that stroll.

Yup, can't overlook Shiner Bock. I hear it's even better than Lone Star or Pearl!

I will be seeing my cousin Wes in Fredericksburg!

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Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/5/2012 7:34 PM
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sissy: I'm going to have to confess to not being a fan of Chuy's. The foods good but no better than a hundred other TexMex places; the decor is corporate "quirky" and cutesy if you like that. What I don't like is the long wait and the crowded conditions since the place is a venerable tradition.

There are so many small Mexican restaurants on the Riverwalk, we will likely just stroll until one catches our attention.

Count Upp

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Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/5/2012 7:50 PM
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We've met a few times before, but . . .

I think we owe you a dinner.

Chili
and we're, well, in proximity


iirc, we owe you a meal.

Check your mail!

Count Upp

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Subject: Re: Trip tocentral Texas Date: 10/5/2012 8:20 PM
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http://www.biga.com/

Sorry. The link got messed up with next sentence.

Chili


Looks like a winner to me!

Count Upp

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