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Subject: Re: Belviq likely to be covered by ObamaCare Date: 11/29/2012 3:43 PM
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True up to a point.....but if it was that easy, there wouldn't be an ongoing *Fighting Fat* forum in the first place.....it'd be a *Fought and Won* collective.

No one can argue with that--staying at your desirable weight requires constant vigilance (and effort of course). I guess that was one of points I was trying (perhaps unsuccessfully) to make in the Fat Determinism thread--I consider maintaining a weightloss 'dieting'. But I do agree with you Steven--it's a matter of semantics.

It's never a 'one-and-done' event--which I think many people (not on this board) but many people in general think they will go 'on a diet', lose the weight, and then don't quite 'get' that they will need to alter their eating habits permanently to be thinner permanently.

So that's why I (and others here) have said--the diet that works is the diet you can stick to.

WRT the weightloss drugs, though, it's a bit like everything else that folk take medication for. The trade-offs are supposed to be weighed (so to speak) ahead of time.

I wonder if the trade-offs are fully and accurately considered by patients (and to some extent physicians)-or are they just so much background noise--in the decision to take the magic bullet. Like those drug ads on tv that state the side effects at the very end of the commercial, but the images shown portray a far rosier outcome. I remember my grandmother's dr insisting to me 'even aspirin has side effects' when I dared mention some of the potential risks of the prescription drugs she was taking--iow, he was very dismissive. (btw--my mother and I insisted she get more tests done and most of the drugs she was on were either removed or the dosage lowered--but we literally got into a screaming match with him to even consider the possibility the symptoms she was having was even remotely connected to the pills).

So my concern is with people who do not fully understand even the known side-effects and do not consider that drug studies cannot and do not always accurately reflect the potential adverse reactions when that drug is more widely distributed. Vioxx leaps to mind, and of course phen-fen....
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