UKBB,I understand that. So does Replay:http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/cat_listRTV.asp?cat=52You can probably find those refurbished for less--a LOT less--but still including the service.Trust me, while you may *think* you want to program it yourself, the service is invaluable.I never worry about missing a Duke basketball game again. If I find myself feeling like watching movies with Kevin Kline, it finds them for me. Got a trip coming up? Put in the destination and it will find appropriate shows for you. Watch what you want (sans commercials) and delete the rest. If you want to manually record things, you can do that too.TMF Uberman
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