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Author: telegraph Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 749401  
Subject: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/7/2013 3:29 PM
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AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka bashed President Obama and Vice President Biden for "valorizing" Walmart pledges to hire returning veterans.

"Walmart’s recent announcement of a plan to hire returning honorably discharged veterans is more about public relations than honoring our heroes," Trumka said. "That this effort was valorized by President Obama and Vice President Biden reflects an acceptance of economic failure out of line with America’s history or future.

"We owe it to our returning veterans to make sure they are treated as the heroes they are, rather than as symbols used to “greenwash” Walmart’s eroding brand. After facing enemies abroad, is an $8.81 an hour part-time job the best we can offer returning veterans?"


Obama, Biden and their wives participated in a White House event last week announcing the commitments by Walmart and other companies to hire veterans. The retailer pledged to hire "any honorably discharged veteran within his or her first 12 months off active duty beginning this Memorial Day," according to the White House announcement.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2013/05/trumka-blasts-oba...

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He's unhappy because VETS are the least likely to want to join a 'union'.....and be 'regimented again'........and they're not welfare weenies and queenies that want a job and don't want to work.



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Author: Hochizen Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 681225 of 749401
Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 9:59 AM
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You left out the quote from the slimeball:

""We owe it to our returning veterans to make sure they are treated as the heroes they are, rather than as symbols used to “greenwash” Walmart’s eroding brand. After facing enemies abroad, is an $8.81 an hour part-time job the best we can offer returning veterans?"

I take it you disagree with this assertion.

Ergo, you believe that the best we can offer returning veterans is a part time job for $8.81 an hour.

From this we can assume the TRUE support for our troops......the FULL REACH of Republican support....is $8.81 an hour, part time....hey, at least they got VA benefits so that is the BEST they deserve!

Walmart is the nations biggest employer, and many of its employees get food stamps or Medicare because Walmart pays low wages.

Thus, we can also assume you support the transfer of taxpayer dollars to Walmart employees......allowing Walmart to keep its wages low as its employees are able to survive by virtue of government help.

Then again......as the Walmart employees are so poorly paid, they will shop at the place that has the cheapest prices....Walmart.

Again, you must support this.....the food stamps we pay to Walmart employees are spent at Walmart.....which means...

You support low private wages supplemented by government paychecks to poor people.

Funny. THAT sounds like REAL socialism to me!

Here endeth the lesson.

Bush was the worst President in the history of the US.

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Author: lowstudent Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 681226 of 749401
Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 10:13 AM
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""We owe it to our returning veterans to make sure they are treated as the heroes they are, rather than as symbols used to “greenwash” Walmart’s eroding brand. After facing enemies abroad, is an $8.81 an hour part-time job the best we can offer returning veterans?"

I take it you disagree with this assertion.

Ergo, you believe that the best we can offer returning veterans is a part time job for $8.81 an hour._
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I never really considered you this ill.

Oh well, I guess you have a problem with them having first chance on some set of jobs, that they make decisions on taking or not taking

You just want to control people. You just know better, you want to make fun of immigrants as you do with your Abadou and than malign others for doing the right thing, because it is not right enough.

YEs I disagree that veterans being offered the job first is a bad thing.

I think only a slimeball would do it. I do not know why you are on board with this type of lying.

But to each their own.

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Author: Hochizen Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 681228 of 749401
Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 10:32 AM
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"YEs I disagree that veterans being offered the job first is a bad thing."

Support our troops! Welcome home, congratulations, now you can go on food stamps and have gross take home of $176.20 per week! LOL

At least they still get VA benefits! Oh, wait....that is socialized medicine! BUT Republicans support socialized medicine so long as Walmart doesn't have to provide insurance! Food stamps are needed, so the virtuous Walmart's employees can eat....surely, Walmart need not pay!

I am just surprised at the support for low wages and government assistance that the right wing is giving! I thought the right wing was AGAINST welfare.....but then again, corporate welfare has always been a keystone of the right wing. So, maybe the government payments only get to offset what Walmart would otherwise spend....oh, wait....lots of those food stamps are used AT Walmart....so Walmart gets to spend less AND get taxpayer money to boot!

USA gets its permanent underclass, Walmart makes tons of money, the government picks up the bill (paid more and more by the 99%)....what's not to like?

Sounds like an economic death spiral to me....but other than that, it is allll good.

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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 11:04 AM
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Ergo, you believe that the best we can offer returning veterans is a part time job for $8.81 an hour.

WE as in you and me, haven't offered our returning veterans one damned thing.

Walmart! offered ALL returning veterans a job which at a minimum will pay $8.81 / hour.

Before you get your liberal anti-Walmart thang (TM) on, why don't you post your counter-offer. Do you promise to hire any and all returning veterans a job? If so, what do you plan to pay them?

You can be certain there isn't a single liberal fool (small "f") at TMF who can top Walmart's offer. Ironically, that won't keep them from insulting Walmart for making that very generous offer.

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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 11:16 AM
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"You can be certain there isn't a single liberal fool (small "f") at TMF who can top Walmart's offer. Ironically, that won't keep them from insulting Walmart for making that very generous offer. "

Oh, I am quite sure NO ONE at the Fool can make such an offer. THAT offer can ONLY be made by the nation's biggest slave owner, Walmart!

Generous? Hey, if they said they would pay vets LIVING WAGES, I would start shopping there. Even if the other workers were hosed like they are now.....yeah, I would shop there. BUT....Walmart won't do that. Walmart will offer them the same low wages, every day!

Only in right wing land is it a GOOD thing that vets are paid minimum wages for part time jobs. But, since the "low wages with government welfare" seems to be the new philosophy embraced by the right wing, who am I to argue? I know a guy who only made $100 a month when he lived in the Soviet Union...but he said his living expenses were less than fifty bucks a month (apartment, utilities and food)......I guess the right wing wants to do that, pay workers very very little but through government programs make up what the employers won't provide.

Still smells like communism to me, but I guess if it helps Walmart it is okey dokey.

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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 11:32 AM
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Oh, I am quite sure NO ONE at the Fool can make such an offer. THAT offer can ONLY be made by the nation's biggest slave owner, Walmart! [...] Still smells like communism to me, but I guess if it helps Walmart it is okey dokey.

This is why we keep saying, "Librulism is a mental disorder."

Here we have a company (Walmart) that says, "Returning veterans, we will offer you, at minimum, a part time job at minimum wage. Then at least you can put food on the table while you're trying to find something better. Perhaps you will even find that 'something better' here at Walmart. We do promote from within but, unlike slavery, no one is forced to work here. We will GUARANTEE every returning veteran this lifeline. We don't purport to be the highest paying employer in the land, but at least we can give our returning veterans a modicum of self-respect by offering them a job instead of them having to go on the dole."

Then we have a mind-disordered librul criticizing this because...well, we don't know why, except that this mind-disordered librul refuses to shop at WalMart.

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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 11:53 AM
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Hochizen:"Walmart is the nations biggest employer, "


Yes, and that is because folks like working at Wal-Mart.


If the unions had jobs to offer EVERY returning vet.....great...they could rip off the taxpayers at inflation prices using the 'highest rates'. Taxpayers get to pay 40-50% more than other workers would gladly work for...... just to fund the high living lifestyles , yachts and summer mansions of the union executives and minions.


but the unions won't. You can't get into most unions without 'family' connections. Period.

So goes your lib whine...right down the drain. There are no union jobs for returning vets in nearly all union shops, other than minimum wage jobs the SEIU represents..and then takes 10% of their paycheck, so they are on Food Stamps, MEdicaid and everything else. Most SEIU union types are minimum wage or barely above it workers. Half of them probably don't even have jobs in this horrible Obama depression.


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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 12:17 PM
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Yes, and that is because folks like working at Wal-Mart.

I've actually asked several employees at my local Walmart if they enjoy working for Walmart. They have all said, "Why, yes, this is a good company to work for."

Why would they say that? Were they being coerced? I'd say no, because there was no one around when I asked them. The usual greeter, whose name is Mark, is unfailingly friendly and appears to enjoy his task of saying hello and pulling out a cart for shoppers. No, he doesn't appear to be mentally challenged in any way.

Why the hard-on for Walmart, Hochizen? Yes, at 2.1 million employees, Walmart is America's largest employer...

http://www.statisticbrain.com/u-s-largest-employers/

...but every single one of those employees is "at will" and don't have to work for Walmart if they really don't want to.

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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 12:57 PM
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"WE as in you and me, haven't offered our returning veterans one damned thing. Walmart! offered ALL returning veterans a job which at a minimum will pay $8.81 / hour. Before you get your liberal anti-Walmart thang (TM) on, why don't you post your counter-offer. Do you promise to hire any and all returning veterans a job? If so, what do you plan to pay them? You can be certain there isn't a single liberal fool (small "f") at TMF who can top Walmart's offer. Ironically, that won't keep them from insulting Walmart for making that very generous offer." - Jim
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Everyone has to start somewhere. That job at Wal-mart might be the opportunity to go back to school and get a college degree in something. It might be the motivation and the money that a returning soldier needs to go down to the local community college and sign up to start taking classes.

After I dropped out of the University of Georgia after my freshman year, after cutting meat at Winn Dixie for $3.10/hour for 6 months I drove 14 miles to Indian River Community College in Ft. Pierce, Florida and signed up to re-take English 101 again. The second time I made a B in the course which was the motivation I needed for me to go back to the University of Georgia and try again. I didn't think I'd ever be able to pass English 101 but I did.

So the fall of 1973 I was back in school at the University of Georgia. Trying again.

Life is a journey. You got to start somewhere. Just because you start at Wal-mart doesn't mean you are going to be there forever.

Art

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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 1:01 PM
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"Oh, I am quite sure NO ONE at the Fool can make such an offer. THAT offer can ONLY be made by the nation's biggest slave owner, Walmart! [...] Still smells like communism to me, but I guess if it helps Walmart it is okey dokey." - Hochizen
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Just because someone starts at Wal-mart doesn't mean they are going to be there forever. It's a stepping stone. A way to get re-integrated back into society. A place to start over.

2 years at a community college and then on to the state University and then a bachelors degree, then a job working in whatever you majored in, then a few graduate courses.

This is the stuff life is made of.

Art

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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 1:32 PM
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Just because you start at Wal-mart doesn't mean you are going to be there forever.

Exactly, and I salute Wal Mart for reaching out to the vets. It's a start to go somewhere or nowhere depending on the person. It's a free choice to accept or decline - a concept that some people can't seem to grasp because the offer just isn't good enough in their eyes.

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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 1:39 PM
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CC"Why the hard-on for Walmart, Hochizen? Yes, at 2.1 million employees, Walmart is America's largest employer...

http://www.statisticbrain.com/u-s-largest-employers/

...but every single one of those employees is "at will" and don't have to work for Walmart if they really don't want to. "


Even better...they don't have union 'overlords' telling them how misery the job is, that they should be paid 50% more for 80% less work, that they should not get promotions based upon merit, but upon only seniority.......

and that they don't have to give up 10% of their paycheck to fund the union political slush fund and giant bonuses and benefits and pensions for the union execs!


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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 2:07 PM
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Why the hard-on for Walmart, Hochizen? Yes, at 2.1 million employees, Walmart is America's largest employer...

As of 2010, the US executive branch employed 2.65 million civilians. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/09/how_man...

The US military, as of Jan 31 this year, has 1.4 million persons on active duty plus .9 million in reserves. That's a total of 2.3 million people in military uniforms. (Civilian employees of the military would be counted among the executive branch; there are .7 million of them.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces

There are almost 1,800 federal judges. http://www.fjc.gov/public/pdf.nsf/lookup/StaffEng.pdf/$file/... I didn't find any numbers on total employment of the federal judicial branch.

Congress employs a mere 24,500 as of the year 2000. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_staff

How can Walmart be the nation's largest employer, when the US government has more people in military uniforms AND more people NOT in military uniforms than Walmart's total employment?

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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 2:14 PM
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"Oh, I am quite sure NO ONE at the Fool can make such an offer. THAT offer can ONLY be made by the nation's biggest slave owner, Walmart! [...] Still smells like communism to me, but I guess if it helps Walmart it is okey dokey." - Hochizen

Anyone who can equate WalMart to a slave-owner and even pretend to be serious, obviously knows nothing of slavery.

Here are a couple assists to amend that ignorance - for free!

Uncle Tom's Cabin http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/203

Fifty Years in Chains http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/40760

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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 2:54 PM
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"Oh, I am quite sure NO ONE at the Fool can make such an offer. THAT offer can ONLY be made by the nation's biggest slave owner, Walmart! [...] Still smells like communism to me, but I guess if it helps Walmart it is okey dokey." - Hochizen
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Hi Jedi


In your opinion, this is what we need at the table, to help us move forward.

Sorry, count me out, this is not a functioning mind. This is a bot lost in their own delusional state.

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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 3:47 PM
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Ironically, that won't keep them from insulting Walmart for making that very generous offer.

It's not ironic so much as it is endemic. The only things at which liberals are truly world class is b!tching, moaning and whining. When it comes to actually doing work, that's when they're nowhere to be found.

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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 3:57 PM
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How can Walmart be the nation's largest employer, when the US government has more people in military uniforms AND more people NOT in military uniforms than Walmart's total employment?

I stand corrected.

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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/8/2013 4:23 PM
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When it comes to actually doing work, that's when they're nowhere to be found.

Oh, they'll work like hell to get you, me and everyone else to pay for what they want.

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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/9/2013 9:48 AM
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Life is a journey. You got to start somewhere. Just because you start at Wal-mart doesn't mean you are going to be there forever.

Art


As an aside, since when, exactly, have liberals been concerned with actual upward mobility? They seem to be content having a permanent underclass that they can misinform so that they keep voting Democrat, all while using their plight as a cudgel against so-called 'mean-spirited' Republicans. For a deeper answer to that question, look at how they treat minorities who have reached a point where they don't look to Democrats for handouts. Their actions belie their rhetoric, but then again, that was always the case for those willing to look and think for themselves.

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Subject: Re: Union boss - total slimeball Date: 5/9/2013 10:02 AM
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My baby sister is working 4 part time jobs in Athens, Georgia right now. Two of those four jobs could possibly turn into permanent full time jobs. The Nabisco job and the Kroger job could turn full time. Of course substitute teaching and setting up at the Convention Center, which is a Union job, won't turn full time. The Convention center job is an "as needed" job, when there are plays or concerts or speakers coming to town. They go set up lights, chairs, wires, speakers, etc. It actually pays real good, like $16.00/hour, but it's not dependable.

She is making up for her 7 year vacation to Sweden.

Art

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