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Author: rosebear Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 2369  
Subject: West Coast Trip Date: 1/15/2001 8:39 PM
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We are leaving in May for a 3-4 month trip to the west coast. Which is the best route to cross the rockies?

I've heard 10 is best, and that would tie in with my desire to visit NM and AZ. We are a 34 ft MH towing a jeep wrangler.

Kelly
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Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/15/2001 9:01 PM
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We are leaving in May for a 3-4 month trip to the west coast. Which is the best route to cross the rockies?

I've heard 10 is best, and that would tie in with my desire to visit NM and AZ. We are a 34 ft MH towing a jeep wrangler.


Kelly,

10 will be flat. 40 is good too. I think 40 would be more scenic.

I need more information! Will you be vacationing for the 3-4 months or are you traveling out here to work? If it is to work how much time do you have to site see? What do you want to see in NM and AZ?

BTW, welcome to my corner of the world!

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Author: Hammerdwn One star, 50 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 289 of 2369
Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/16/2001 12:04 PM
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Utah......
I'll be watching your replies to Kelly, since my wife and I possibly will be heading that way this summer. My sister-in-law lives in Surprise, AZ and, of course, we'll have to make a stop (our first time) in Vegas. We'll have about a month for this vacation. Any suggestions? We will be heading across SD from MN, stopping at Deadwood, then heading SW from there using I-25, then I-40. Don't want to take the I-35 route through the stormy Plaines states.

Hammer

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Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/16/2001 12:58 PM
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I've heard 10 is best, and that would tie in with my desire to visit NM and AZ. We are a 34 ft MH towing a jeep wrangler.

I-10 is flat, but be prepared for some real heat along that route starting in May.

I-40 is more mountainous, but it's a cooler route and is a lot closer to Albuquerque, Santa Fe, and the Grand Canyon.

Of course, I like it here in southern Arizona.

Doug
Tucson, AZ

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Author: rosebear Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 291 of 2369
Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/16/2001 1:50 PM
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I need more information! Will you be vacationing for the 3-4 months or are you traveling
out here to work? If it is to work how much time do you have to site see? What do you
want to see in NM and AZ?


We just thought of doing this trip a couple of days ago so we haven't thought the whole thing through, yet. But, on our list of things to do and see..
Carlsbad caverns, Albuquerque, Santa Fe, Taos, Roswell, Flagstaff, The Grand Canyon, Hopi indian reservation (Anazazi, more National Parks. Maybe tombstone.
I need to lok a lot of this up online and get some newer maps. I'm interested in Hopi and Zuni pottery.

I think I40 will be best. I traveled I10 25 years ago and i remember it being beastly hot. And I have no desire to go near LA (maybe San Diego)

We are retired, so we will be site seeing the whole time. We don't mind dry camping a few days here and there. We did that for 3 months in Key West! If we dind a place we really like we might stay a while, we have no timetables.

Gonna take the MH to Camping World and get new awnings for the slide and new levelers. And we are closing on some property in NC in March. If we can swing it we could leave from Myrtle Beach and just head west.

Any suggestions on cool places to see will be appreciated.

Kelly



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Author: utahtea Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 292 of 2369
Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/20/2001 3:03 AM
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Any suggestions?

OY, Do I have suggestions! I don't even know where to begin.

Badlands National Park, SD http://www.nps.gov/badl/index.htm
Mt. Rushmore National Memorial, SD http://www.nps.gov/moru/index.htm
Rocky Mountain National Park, CO http://www.nps.gov/romo/index.htm

If you want to see other place on the way you could take other roads and possible see:

Colorado National Monument, CO http://www.nps.gov/colm/index.htm
Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park http://www.nps.gov/blca/index.htm
Ouray, Silverton and Durango, CO
Mesa Verde National Park, CO http://www.nps.gov/meve/index.htm
Four Corners CO, NM, AZ, UT
Monument Valley, Utah/Arizona Border http://www.so-utah.com/souteast/homepage.html
Canyon De Chelly National Monument, AZ http://www.nps.gov/cach/index.htm
Petrified Forest National Park, AZ http://www.nps.gov/pefo/index.htm
Walnut Canyon National Monument ,AZ http://www.nps.gov/waca/index.htm
Sedona, AZ
Montezuma's Castle National Monument, AZ
http://www.nps.gov/moca/index.htm

If you are heading home from Las Vegas I would suggest taking I15 to St. George, Utah and from there you can take the back roads and see:

Zion National Park, Utah http://www.nps.gov/pefo/index.htm
Bryce National Park, UT http://www.nps.gov/brca/index.htm
The Grand Staircase/Escalante Canyon National Monument, Utah http://www.so-utah.com/stair/homepage.html
Drive the scenic by-way 128 to Torry, Utah http://www.so-utah.com/hwy12/homepage.html
Capital Reef National Monument http://www.nps.gov/care/index.htm

and then pick up I70 and head east to Denver but making a short detour to Moab, Utah and

Arches National Park, Utah http://www.nps.gov/arch/index.htm
Canyonlands National Park, Utah. http://www.nps.gov/cany/index.htm

back on I70 just 3 miles from Thompson

Seco Canyon Petroglyphs, Utah http://www.so-utah.com/green/segocny/homepage.html

BTW, If you do all of these I highly recommend the National Park Pass for $50.00!

I can narrow things down if you give me more ideas of what you like to do and see:)

Utahtea




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Author: utahtea Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 293 of 2369
Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/20/2001 3:52 AM
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Carlsbad caverns, Albuquerque, Santa Fe, Taos, Roswell, Flagstaff, The Grand Canyon, Hopi indian reservation (Anazazi, more National Parks. Maybe tombstone.
I need to lok a lot of this up online and get some newer maps. I'm interested in Hopi and Zuni pottery.


I have a few ideas. OY, here I go again:)

Carlsbad Caverns are my favorite caverns and we have visited many others.

We didn't spend much time in Roswell it was raining very hard the day we were there. Just east of there on Hwy 380 is a little city called Lincoln with a big history! It's the place of the Lincoln County Wars and Billy the Kid. http://www.zianet.com/snm/lincwar.htm

Near by on Hwy 380 is where Smokey the Bear was found and they have a visitor center. http://www.emnrd.state.nm.us/forestry/smokey.htm

I've always wanted to go to Taco but haven't been yet.

We did not spend much time in Santa Fe, but not far from there is Bandelier National Monument http://www.nps.gov/band/index.htm

I hope you will consider Mesa Verde National Park in southern Colorado. They have the best cliff dewelings. http://www.nps.gov/meve/index.htm

Since you are towing a jeep you might be interested in going out to see Chaco Canyon National Historic Park in New Mexico. http://www.nps.gov/chcu/index.htm This place is awesome!!!! You do have to drive down a dirt road but any car would do.

On I 40 between Albuquerque and Gallop are a few place of interest. Acoma Pueblo which we didn't get to visit. El Malpais which we didn't get a good view of because it was pouring down rain. BTW, don't go to New Mexico in August because that is their monsoon season! El Morro was very interesting. http://www.nps.gov/elmo/index.htm

You mentioned the Hopi Reservation. We drove from Window Rock, AZ on Hwy 264 through the heart of the reservation to Tuba City. It was a magnificate drive. I wish we had more time to explore on that trip. I don't know if you would want to take your 34 ft motorhome on that road. There were some windy places and grades to drive, but it's been so long I really couldn't say. I guess you could always make a day trip of it in the jeep. http://www.hopi.nsn.us/Pages/Hopi_2.htm & http://www.hopi.nsn.us/

You might want to look in to Historic Route 66 because you will be running into it a lot when you drive I 40.

Also the Jeep could be real handy in Utah. There are so many jeep trails that lead to beautiful places. Let me know if you are interested in more information. Maybe on the return trip:)

If you have more specific questions I would be happy to answer if I can.

Utahtea (the travel Queen of the West!)








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Author: rosebear Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 294 of 2369
Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/20/2001 2:55 PM
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I have a few ideas. OY, here I go again:)

Wow!! I'm impressed.Thanks for all the links!

The National Park Pass sounds like a really good deal.
Does the $50.00 give you unlimited access to all areas of the National Park System?

And, I had toyed with the idea of driving Old route 66, at least some of the time. We don't like to stay on the interstates unless we are on a full power run. You miss too much.

Let me wade thru these links; I'll make a list of questions. Again, thanks utahtea.

Kelly

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Author: utahtea Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 295 of 2369
Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/21/2001 3:54 AM
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The National Park Pass sounds like a really good deal.
Does the $50.00 give you unlimited access to all areas of the National Park System?


Yes, it is good for entrance fees to every National Parks, National Monuments and National Historic Parks that charges an admission fee. We buy one every year and it always saves us money, but then we live very close to Yosemite National Park. You can read more about it here:

http://www.nps.gov/parks/passes_fees_2000.htm.old

and here is a list of the parks and their enterance fees so you can tell if it is worth it.

http://www.nps.gov/feedemo/parkfees.htm

Most of the time when you enter a park the entrance fee is good for 7 days so you don't pay for each day.

I would wait until you got to the first National Park to buy one. The pass is good for one year from the date of purchase including that month of the next year. Am I making sense here?

Example: If you buy it at any time in May 2001 it is good until the end of May 2002, so it is really good for 13 months. Of course one year we bought it on the last day of a month so it was only good for 12 months:(

I'll make a list of questions.

I'll be waiting:)

Utahtea


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Author: tooty46 Three stars, 500 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 296 of 2369
Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/21/2001 10:25 PM
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Kelly and Utah, I read your posts with interest..DH is retiring Feb. 21st and we are planning a trip to Key West around March 1st. But our dream trip is going to be next fall to San Francisco and on up hwy 1 to San Simeon and ofcourse Grand Canyon & Yellowstone..Thanks Utah for all the great links, and the advice..We just bought a new Navigator by Holiday Rambler. Anything you can tell us about Key West, Kelly? We've been there before but it was about 15 yrs ago.

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Author: utahtea Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 297 of 2369
Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/22/2001 3:40 AM
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But our dream trip is going to be next fall to San Francisco and on up hwy 1 to San Simeon and ofcourse Grand Canyon & Yellowstone..Thanks Utah for all the great links, and the advice..

Tooty46,

Your welcome. There is a lot to see and do between SF, Grand Canyon and Yellowstone. Do you need more ideas?

You mentioned going in the fall and going to Yellowstone. You do realize that there could be snow as early as September. You might want to check out the weather info site on Yellowstone National Park.
http://www.nps.gov/yell/planvisit/orientation/travel/index.htm

Utahtea

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Author: tooty46 Three stars, 500 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 298 of 2369
Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/22/2001 12:43 PM
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Utahtea,

I would welcome more ideas...You seem very informed on the National Parks and there is something I would like to know ...Am I going to have trouble finding camping spaces for a 42 ft. motorhome? Thanks again for the links. Tooty

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Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/22/2001 4:11 PM
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Anything you can tell us about Key West, Kelly? We've been there before but it was about 15 yrs ago.

I love the place! We went there for the winter of 97-98 and ended up staying until April 99. But, from what natives have told me, it's changed considerably from the eighties. Lots of touristy stuff, and the Mallory Pier Sunset Celebrations are not spontaneous anymore but truly a scripted show. But, they still happen every sunset and it's lots of fun.

Where are you going to stay? There is a campground called Jabour's Trailer Court. I do NOT recommend staying there. It's right down on the piers (what used to be the old shrimp docks) and very unsafe at night. I do recommend Boyd's Key West Campground on Stock Island. It's fenced with 24 hour security. We lived there for most of our stay and never experienced a problem. Phone 305.294.1465

Read the local paper at www.keywestcitizen.com
Also www.solareshill.com

Lots of great restaurants and Duval Street is still a must walk. The navy has turned over a lot of the old base and port facilities to the City so you will have access to a small beach there.

Things I recommend to do and see:
-Touring the Truman Little White House.
-The Conch Train is a 90 minute tour around the island and they give a very good overview of what to see.
-Sunset Celebration at Mallory.
-Take a walk through Old Town and see fabulous old homes and tropical gardens.
-Take a boat ride.
-Tour Hemingway House on Whitehead. It's wonderful and there must be a couple humdred of the six-toed cats living on the grounds.
-East Martello Museum
-And, you must visit the Key West Cemetery.

Tell me what you are interested in and i'll give more detail. Enjoy Paradise!

Kelly



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Author: ataloss Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 300 of 2369
Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/22/2001 4:47 PM
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boyds in key west looks good!

http://www.gocampingamerica.com/boydskeywest/

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Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/22/2001 6:45 PM
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Kelly,
Thanks for the info, you make it sound sooo good!!
We are taking my father (who is retired military) with us and will be staying at the military base on Sigsbee Island ...My mother and father always stayed there every year in Jan. Feb. & March and have many good friends who still go.. so we are taking him back to see some of his old buddies. Oh yeah, I remember those six-toed cats, almost forgot about that. So much to learn about this new life of retirement, we'll just have to play it by ear. Thanks for the links ...I'm going to check them out....

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Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/22/2001 6:50 PM
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ataloss,
Thanks for the great link! and you're right it does look good... Toot

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Author: rosebear Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 303 of 2369
Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/22/2001 10:04 PM
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I was going to ask you if you had military ID. The first time we went down to KW we stayed at Sigsbee (70 sites full hook-ups). The check in place is in the Community Center (on Sigsbee)and they ask for the MH registration.
If the military member isn't the owner of the MH then hope you can wing it. (I worked at this office for 2 months, so I know they are not too attentive).
So, since everybody in the world, it seems, goes to KW in the winter, the military has dry camping available at Trumbo Point(to eligible people). What they do, is let you stay for 14 days in full hookups then they move you to Trumbo and the shuffel begins. Bring your generator and the Blueboy. There are showers at the pool, free after 4pm. And Sunday Brunch at the BOQ (at Trumbo) is wonderful (at 7.50 each)
Enjoy!!!!

kelly

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Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/22/2001 10:33 PM
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Thanks Kelly, Boy-o I think I found the right person to ask about Key West..Do you think they will be able to accommodate (on the base) a 42 ft. MH? or will we have to go to overflow at Trumbo? I kind of wish we hadn't bought such a big MH,..... some friends tell us that we will run into problems trying to find spaces big enough, do you think they are right? Toot

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Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/22/2001 11:07 PM
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Do you hink they will be able to accommodate (on the base) a 42 ft. MH? or will we have to go to overflow at Trumbo

No problem at either place. The base has 70 sites. Half are concrete slabs and half are on gravel. Gravel sites have more room but slabs sites are more desirable. If you get assigned a slab site and your tow doesn't fit on site then you park in it the road.
(For those who have never been to Sigsbee, The Navy made this island for military housing. It is just off shore,but has controlled access. The RV area is on the water and on a circle so parking is available all along the circle.)

Trumbo Point is the old Seaplane Base. The old hangers are still there really falling down, sad..) This is the place where Flaglers Overseas Railroad ended. Now there is a Coast Guard Station at the very end but since the Government still owns it, the Navy lets us drycamp for 9 bucks a day ( 9 Bucks** Where else would you pay 9 bucks for no hookups?? only in Key West)

Trumbo is also really close to Old Town. Many people bring their bikes and that's really the best way to get around.

Kelly

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Author: utahtea Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 306 of 2369
Subject: Re: West Coast Trip Date: 1/23/2001 3:23 AM
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Am I going to have trouble finding camping spaces for a 42 ft. motorhome?

There will be fewer sites that will accommodate your rig, but they do have spaces that large in a lot of the National Parks. You shouldn't have any problems in private campgrounds.

I would suggest getting a campground directory like "Trailer Life Campgrounds, RV Parks & Services". I find that it's just as cheap in a book store as getting the Good Sam Discount and having to pay for shipping.

Another good book that we got a lot of use out of this year was "Exit Authority" It list all the businesses and rest area's within 1 mile of every exit on Interstates. It also puts the business's and rest area's in Red when they accommdate an RV. This is nice because then you know the RV will fit in at the gas station or there will be parking at the restaurant. It's also helpfull for finding grocery stores, parts stores, restaurants, campgrounds, rv dumps, etc. It list them by names, like, Safeway, Wal-Mart, Denney's, Chevron, etc.

Utahtea



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