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Author: TMBFAverageJoe Big funky green star, 20000 posts Top Favorite Fools Top Recommended Fools Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 13647  
Subject: Whether or not Date: 1/11/2013 4:43 PM
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I read this in an online article today:

"Whether or not people realize it...."

Is that correct, or should it be "whether people realize it, or not..."

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Author: knighttof3 Big red star, 1000 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 12824 of 13647
Subject: Re: Whether or not Date: 1/11/2013 5:34 PM
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I read this in an online article today:

"Whether or not people realize it...."

Is that correct, or should it be "whether people realize it, or not..."


I like yours better.
On a related note, I was taught to not use "not" when the clause comes at the end, and "whether" substitutes for "if". For example,
"She asked whether Jack was available."
Never "She asked whether Jack was available or not."

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Author: culcha Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool CAPS All Star Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 12825 of 13647
Subject: Re: Whether or not Date: 1/12/2013 1:04 PM
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See: http://afterdeadline.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/01/whether-or...

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Author: sheila727 Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 12831 of 13647
Subject: Re: Whether or not Date: 1/13/2013 6:18 PM
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I don't include "or not" if it's clearly redundant, ie, the meaning is perfectly clear whether or not I tack "or not" on. But if the sentence feels unfinished--as this previous one would have had I omitted "or not" -- then it belongs.


sheila

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