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Now there is parental notification with an opt-out option!


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/missouri-anti-evolution-la...


A Missouri lawmaker has proposed what ranks among the most anti-evolution legislation in recent years, which would require schools to notify parents if "the theory of evolution by natural selection" was being taught at their child's school and give them the opportunity to opt out of the class.

State Rep. Rick Brattin (R), who sponsored the bill, told a local TV station last week that teaching only evolution in school was "indoctrination."

“It’s an absolute infringement on people’s beliefs,” Brattin told the Kansas City Star of requiring schools to teach evolution. “What’s being taught is just as much faith and, you know, just as much pulled out of the air as, say, any religion."



Except for the fact that evolution has predicted the discovery of countless fossils, like Tiktaalik.

But at least you admit that religion is pulled out of the air, and therefore has no business in the science classroom.
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Mi<A Missouri lawmaker has proposed what ranks among the most anti-evolution legislation in recent years, which would require schools to notify parents if "the theory of evolution by natural selection" was being taught at their child's school and give them the opportunity to opt out of the class.

State Rep. Rick Brattin (R), who sponsored the bill, told a local TV station last week that teaching only evolution in school was "indoctrination."

“It’s an absolute infringement on people’s beliefs,” Brattin told the Kansas City Star of requiring schools to teach evolution. “What’s being taught is just as much faith and, you know, just as much pulled out of the air as, say, any religion."


American Exceptionalism in action.
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These frakkin' ignorance spreading morots!

Ken
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“It’s an absolute infringement on people’s beliefs,” Brattin told the Kansas City Star of requiring schools to teach evolution. “What’s being taught is just as much faith and, you know, just as much pulled out of the air as, say, any religion."

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I wonder how he feels about math. Maybe they want to have kids opt out of that as well...
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" if "the theory of evolution by natural selection" was being taught at their child's school and give them the opportunity to opt out of the class."

when the kids get to college, if they a pursuing a meteorology degree the parents can also opt them out of thermo-dynamics and fluid dynamics.

If the parents believe in a 5,000 year earth they can also opt them out of nuclear physics (that e=mc^2 thin and an anything else having to do with the speed of light) as well as forestry (no point in counting tree rings if it does not give you the answer you want).

The kids can also be exempted from any study of optics, since the first rainbow only appeared after Noah's flood, the calculations that show rainbows forming under very common conditions, whenever there is localized rain and bright sun, are obviously wrong.

If they chose to be a metallurgist, they can also be exempted from any study of crystal growth ( those pesky measurements that show iron meteorites cooling over millions of years when the universe is only 5K years Old)

In fact, the kids can be exempted from any study of the natural world or the underlying properties that direct it.

V.
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If the parents believe in a 5,000 year earth they can also opt them out of nuclear physics (that e=mc^2 thin and an anything else having to do with the speed of light) as well as forestry (no point in counting tree rings if it does not give you the answer you want).


I wonder what they think of the deep field pictures from Hubble.

I guess God speeds up light, so the most distant object is only 6000 light years away.
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I wonder what they think of the deep field pictures from Hubble.
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lalalalalala, I can't see you!
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lalalalalala, I can't see you!

Red shift and Doppler. Clearly the work of Satan. Those train whistles and ambulance sirens know where I am and *choose* to change their pitch!
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I wonder what these people think of antibiotics? If there is no evolution then there should be no need to have more than one kind of antibiotic for a given disease, right? How did MRSA occur?

I wonder how DDT resistant mosquitoes happened?

I picked these two because those that hold these anti-evolutionary viewpoints have small minds, so I picked small proofs of evolution at work. I still may have picked examples too large for them to grasp though.

Poz
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I wonder what these people think of antibiotics? If there is no evolution then there should be no need to have more than one kind of antibiotic for a given disease, right? How did MRSA occur?

I wonder how DDT resistant mosquitoes happened?

I picked these two because those that hold these anti-evolutionary viewpoints have small minds, so I picked small proofs of evolution at work. I still may have picked examples too large for them to grasp though.

Poz


They believe in the inch, but not the mile.

csayre
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I wonder how they think the fuel that goes into their beloved NASCAR Jaysus-approved vehicles works.

What do they think made the oil that it's refined from -- and how long it took to get there?
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I'm curious what you think...

Normally, reality deniers -- the people who deny tobacco's danger with phony science, who think prohibition works and had phony science to prove it, who deny human-based climate change with phony science -- are just the peons of those who make a lot of money so long as the denial holds.

Who makes money off of denial of the truth of evolution?
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Who makes money off of denial of the truth of evolution?

Televangelists.

And politicians use it as a wedge issue.
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This is not an attack on science.

This is an expansion of parental rights.
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when the kids get to college, if they a pursuing a meteorology degree the parents can also opt them out of thermo-dynamics and fluid dynamics.

If the parents believe in a 5,000 year earth they can also opt them out of nuclear physics (that e=mc^2 thin and an anything else having to do with the speed of light) as well as forestry (no point in counting tree rings if it does not give you the answer you want).

The kids can also be exempted from any study of optics, since the first rainbow only appeared after Noah's flood, the calculations that show rainbows forming under very common conditions, whenever there is localized rain and bright sun, are obviously wrong.

If they chose to be a metallurgist, they can also be exempted from any study of crystal growth ( those pesky measurements that show iron meteorites cooling over millions of years when the universe is only 5K years Old)

In fact, the kids can be exempted from any study of the natural world or the underlying properties that direct it.


When the kids get to college, they will be adults and parental rights will no longer be a factor. Also, college is not government mandated.
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CairnDad says

This is not an attack on science.

This is an expansion of parental rights.

Thank you for playing.
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This is not an attack on science.

This is an expansion of parental rights.


You already have the parental right to turn out adult idiots, through home schooling. This expands your right to do that to every other child.
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You already have the parental right to turn out adult idiots, through home schooling. This expands your right to do that to every other child.

How does having the right to pull my child out of the class expand my right to do that to every other child? If the other child's parent wants to leave him/her in, they can do that.
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Agreed, CD: You have a God-given right to have stupid children.

.....The very same right your own parents had.


Jimbo
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"When the kids get to college, they will be adults and parental rights will no longer be a factor."

You wish. By the time the kids get to college they will have had a dozen years of indoctrination into applying magical thinking instead of scientific analysis and they will not have had the basic science to prepare them for any college science course. While the kids can certainly decide to change their path, they will be starting out well behind their peers that a good high school science education and behind the rest of the world.

As with learning new languages, the younger you are when you are introduced to your science education, the easier time you will have grasping and applying the concepts. Finishing high scool with big holes in your background, being taught to ignore observable data... As I noted in other posts, science is not just learning for learning's sake. All of those principles get applied to make things and cure diseases and such. If you can not apply those principals, you can not get those jobs. If you start off, as a young person, 4 years or 8 years behind your global peers, yes the parents matter all the way through college.

V.
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Agreed, CD: You have a God-given right to have stupid children.

.....The very same right your own parents had.





But those stupid children don't have the right to a state-certified diploma.
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He would rather teach myths as fact and critical thinking as a sin.
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