Fools,Now that the national elections are over, let's get to the really important voting. It's time to begin the nomination process for this year's Feste Award! For those of you who don't know what the Feste Award is, check out the following from last year's "Feste"ivities:Candidateshttp://www.fool.com/Specials/2002/02011100sp.htmWinnershttp://www.fool.com/Specials/2002/02030105con.htmSimilar to last year, we'd like to bestow The Feste Award on one member of the community who best exemplifies our mission of Learning Together:http://www.fool.com/community/mission.htmBecause this is a community award, the nominations for this award should bubble up from within. We'd like to use this discussion board to accept your nominations for The Feste Award. In order to nominate someone, you must include the following:- member name- a few paragraphs detailing why this person deserves the award- links to 3 posts from this year (2002) that exemplify this person's dedication to the community and to Learning TogetherWe'll accept submissions through December 1st, review them internally, and whittle the list down to 10 candidates. From there, we'll let the community vote to determine the winner of the second annual Feste Award!A few points to mention:- this isn't a lifetime achievement award. The winner should be chosen based on contributions from 2002 only- you must list 3 posts from 2002 that exemplify the person's Feste deserving contributions or your nomination will not be considered- you must write a few lines about why this person is deserving or your nomination will not be considered- having already won last year's award, Jamie Gritton is exempt from this year's balloting and simply takes his rightful place in the pantheon of community Fools.- TMF staff, despite how much you may love them (present company excepted), are not eligible, though I'm sure they'd still love it if you sang their praisesThis was a lot of fun last year and we hope it will prove to be equally fun this year. So, let the nomination process begin!
There is only one choice: howardroarkOn Dell's option plan:http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17740458&sort=recommendationsOn market psychology:http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17707952&sort=recommendationsOn operating leases:http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=18091177&sort=recommendationsOn valuing a company (entire thread)http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17557705&sort=recommendationsOn Amazon's debt:http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=18061627On a slimy tender:http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17957032On CMGI:http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17810174On Rates and Stocks:http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17790813I could go on and on. What is most incredible about this series of posts is it only takes about 5 minutes to put together an outstanding list.
There is only one choice: howardroark===*===He's good alright.Rabid Raggmopp<but he's no Read>
I'll second the nomination, if that sort of thing is necessary.
While I like howardroark, I don't think there is a more informative or hilarious poster than trepanne.Here is a link that chronicles "trp":http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17999758
http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=14402700&sort=recommendationshttp://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=13991218&sort=recommendationshttp://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=12427498http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=14354692and the rest:http://boards.fool.com/LastPosts.asp?uid=149354&limit=99&byrecs=yHe wins.
- TMF staff, despite how much you may love them (present company excepted), are not eligible, though I'm sure they'd still love it if you sang their praisesSo I guess that means the "Logicalman for Feste 2002" campaign is over before it starts.Sarcasman, crushed
He's good alright.Rabid Raggmopp<but he's no Read> This is an insult?
He's good alright.Rabid Raggmopp<but he's no Read> This is an insult?WarizillI think this is a new record: barely a day, if that, into it and my chances slip. A handful of posts and some of the heavy-hitters are nominated and with them the verbal abuse. I have this sinking feeling that I am sinking at the launch.However, since I have as role models The Brave Little Toaster, The Little Train That Could and Alex Comfort's The Joy of Sex (another title applicable to 'little' but I'm not going there), I shall persevere. Bring on your big guys because I don't know the meaning of fear (along with a lot of other words I don't know the meaning of).I note that Bogey did not mention The Feste Award Third Class with Palm Cluster. Possibly it slipped his mind. If so I remind him of that. I also remind Bogey that I have the award made (two bronze Canadians copulating in a bronze canoe set on a bronze plinth) and all that is needed is the plaque stating me as winner to be bolted to it.Plus, Bogey, I have this Magic Formula that, if rubbed on a driver, gets you an additional 25 yards off the tee. Want it? If so, trade time.MichaelR
(two bronze Canadians copulating in a bronze canoe set on a bronze plinth)===*===Boss! I'll summon the Rabid, Frisky Cheerleaders.Rabid Raggmopp
- member nameintercst- a few paragraphs detailing why this person deserves the awardIn my mind there is only one possible winner here: intercst. I think there are few here on the boards who can can claim to have promoted the Fool value of "Learning Together" more than intercst over the last year. Through his informative posts, he's promoted a a risk controlled approach to early retirement. No hype, no extremes, just a well researched approach for which he's done his homework so that many of us don't have to.He's also got a great sense of humor, and moderates the Retire Early Board with a loose, non-judgemental governence that keeps the discussion well spirited while keeping within the bounds of common decency.He's had a very positive effect on my life, by sharing his knowledge, and giving me hope of ejecting early from the lunancies of corporate America. I raise my glass regardless of the outcome the competition. I'm sure there are many who are with me.- links to 3 posts from this year (2002) that exemplify this person's dedication to the community and to Learning TogetherHere's some of his Posts. I know they are not his best, but I am not very good at searching the board. It's not specific posts over the last year, just many small posts which help keep the Retire Early Crowd on track, well informed, and entertained.http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=15535676http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=15747702http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=18082777-reb
howardroarkAny other choice would be an obscenity.*********************************************************************I still can't figure out what happened last year. Nor can I remember who won. (checking . . .) Oh right, some Mechanical Investing guy. (slow burn starting) Great choice. It would be interesting to attempt to figure out how much money that person has lost for those who attempt to turn the alchemy/BS of mechanical investing into actual cash. Why on earth doesn't the Fool dis Mechanical Investing the same way it disses (and rightly so) "technical analysis"? Why would the Fool laud this crap with an award? ARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHUsuallyReasonable
Why on earth doesn't the Fool dis Mechanical Investing the same way it disses (and rightly so) "technical analysis"? Why would the Fool laud this crap with an award?UsuallyReasonable,This must be one of those times when you're being "unreasonable." :) To get upset because a "mechanical investing guy" won the award last year is to miss the entire purpose and spirit of the award. The subject matter of the community in question isn't quite so relevant as the relative efforts of the people involved in helping to build and foster that community. Jamie Gritton, irrespective of how you feel about the subject he is passionate about, did/does an amazing amount of work to help foster that MI community. He epitomized the spirit of Learning Together and for that he certainly deserved the award. Please keep in mind, of course, that the award is determined by the community members who vote. While we whittle the list down to 10 finalists, the community has the final say on who wins and who doesn't.It would be interesting to attempt to figure out how much money that person has lost for those who attempt to turn the alchemy/BS of mechanical investing into actual cash.No more interesting than it would be for me to attempt to figure out what you, or anyone else has lost me because I read one of your opinions or read one of your posts. Which is to say, not interesting at all. Best,Bogey
It would be interesting to attempt to figure out how much money that person has lost for those who attempt to turn the alchemy/BS of mechanical investing into actual cash.<><><>I don't think anyone has lost money taking advice from swimdadscm
a few paragraphs detailing why this person deserves the awardFwiw, I didn't do this because roark's posts make it self-evident who he is. That said, to comply with the letter of the law:Roark is the epitome of what makes Motley Fool so valuable. Briefly, the guy is: * Smart as a whip, and able to address a multiple of topics * Utter un-condescending, patiently explaining the most complex concepts in great detail * A person who can flat out write. Roark's notes are unfailingly a joy to read. * Someone who will meaningfully improve a stock picker's investment results. Roark gives investors an comprehensive prospective on options, operating leases, pensions, and other oftentimes arcane but highly important topics.Granted, I have heard that in person roark has bad breath, crooked teeth, un-kept hair, and a squeaky voice, but as a cyber entity that should not enter consideration...
Bogey,This must be one of those times when you're being "unreasonable." :)Could be . . . it does happen, hence the "usually". But in this case think "curmudgeonly" captures it better.keep in mind, of course, that the award is determined by the community members who vote.I must admit I had forgotten that.Jamie Gritton, irrespective of how you feel about the subject he is passionate about, did/does an amazing amount of work to help foster that MI community. He epitomized the spirit of Learning Together and for that he certainly deserved the award.mmmmmmmmm ehhhhhhh arrrrrgggghhhhhh I suppose you could argue that way. He did/does a lot of work, no question. But I was thinking of it more in terms of your motto . . .Educate -- about something which makes no sense and will not make people money.Amuse -- I don't know, he could be the funniest guy on the planet.Enrich -- with that method? I consider it highly unlikely.But as it was based on a popular vote, I cannot lay it at the door of the Fool, as you point out. So let me return to my more important message:howardroark!UsuallyReasonable
But I was thinking of it more in terms of your motto Best to think more in terms of our mission, which is Learning Together and the foundation for the kind of candidate that should be nominated.http://www.fool.com/community/mission.htmBest,Bogey
Amuse -- I don't know, he could be the funniest guy on the planet.<><><>I think that would be my candidate: Swimdad, the elderscm
Bogey,will you be using a more secure polling feature than you did last year?It was possible to vote multiple times last year by simply clearing out the cookies in your browser.Bryan
Hi Bryan,As I awkwardly and rather crudely tried to explain in Msg #822 that American Pharaoh, the late Richard J Daley, former Mayor of Chicago, developed the multiple vote into an enviable (yet truly corrupt) art form.During Daley's tenure, the dreaded undercount and /or low turnout of the cemetery residents was never to happened again. Never ever! So it with open arms that I welcome you to my crusade of one Fool one Vote.And given the low stock market returns over the past year and MichaelR's frequent allusions to direct bribery; I am patiently waiting for the highest offer on that scarce commodity—my single Feste Award vote. Bidding is open! ~ray
It was possible to vote multiple times last year by simply clearing out the cookies in your browser.<><><>shhhhhhhh!!!
In my recommendation of Ralph Block, Reitnut, for the Feste Award I see that I listed one post from the year 2001. Sorry. I hope that I may be able to replace it with this from 2002: http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17338934 It had 59 recommendations.
I appreciate the mention, but I'm sorry to say I have to withdraw my name from contention this year. Admittedly, the repeated calls from MichaelRead's mother have finally gotten to me. After seeing the beating that GoofyHoofy took last year in what has been called by some the largest gap between a third and fourth runner up since Arthur Anderson went into the pulp and paper business, she just couldn't bear to witness MR go through a similar public trouncing. Frankly, I understand the sentiment. Goofy still sends me his therapy bills to this day, and let's just say that his doctor seems to be one helluva lot more profitable than AOL Latin America. As an alternative, I nominate RJMason, mainly because it is public knowledge that he recently came into some money, and this seems like a much better method than asking for a direct handout. Also, RJ may be the only regular poster whose most recommended post actually came before the recommendation feature was instituted, which means his selection would likely stand the test of time.How to write a movie reviewhttp://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17675643How to get rich quick if you happen to know more than everyone elsehttp://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17507159How to sit quietly in bunker for years on endhttp://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=18094526How to cure insomniahttp://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=18094526How to err in defining "lazy"http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17911164&sort=username
I appreciate the mention, but I'm sorry to say I have to withdraw my name from contention this year. And so it ends. With barely a whimper. Before it even got off the ground. A candidate *suddenly* and "unexpectedly" withdraws his name from consideration. One might even contend, a "front runner." Just gonna walk away. "Thanks, but no thanks... you know... deference to others more worthy...."<sniff-sniff>Do you smell that? No... not that, but the other smell blowing in from the Atlantic Coast. Might be rotting cod... or not. Yes, I know it's hard to smell given the other thing, but the other thing should diffuse rather rapidly, and then we'll all be left with the odor to which I wish to direct your attention. Here... I'll open the window and use this manilla folder marked "Roark" to clear the room.There. Now can you smell it?! Yes... that definitely is the stench of hidden scandal lurking just below the surface. A secret so sick, twisted and perverse that it would serve as a Robe of Many Colors, placing to shame an amalgam of all prior scandals sewn together like cheap hobo rags.He'll deny it. So will his phalanx of spokespersons and his advisers. Oh surely they will, but that alone serves as proof-positive that "Howardgate" is just itching to burst forth and add itself to the Lexicon of Ignominy, and crown itself King, or Queen, or Raj, or Sultan, or Chief Raelian Cloner.Because it's never been clear just whose bidding he does.Yes... we only now possess bits of the overall puzzle: accusations of bondage and automobile trunks, clubs of ill-repute, some perverse affair with someone else's sister, and heavies with names like "Hammer" and "Coralville" (where the fishies sleep). And the public esoteric numerological obfuscation.That's just the stuff that a shoddy search engine can dredge up... but there's also the quieter stuff that people of a certain class mention between bites of an olive at Power Cocktail Parties... in DC, New York, Freiburg. Really horrible & dreadful stuff during the Renaissance Weekend... Howard & Henry & Hillary, and a film crew. Perhaps the film fell into the wrong hands, eh Mr. Roark? Into the hands of someone munching gin-soaked olives backing a different pony?Oh sure: the Goofyhoofy/MR/RJ/AOL smokescreen is good. No one ever denied that you're good. Oh yes... you're very, very, very good, Mr. Roark: tossing so much virtual and community dust into the air.Some of us out here, however, are not buying it.Good reporters won't stop digging for the real answers, and the chattering class from pondering the question, "Why?" And Justice and History conspire to out the Truth... if but eventually.And when they out that Truth, you can rest assured, I will remind all that this "withdrawal," in the name of vague principles and the feelings of other's mothers, was a sham. Just more mirrors and curtains. Not so easy this time, Mr. Charmed Existence. Not so fast this time, Mr. Ideal Candidate. We'll unhinge the jaws of those who know.In due time,Jimi
And when they out that Truth, you can rest assured, I will remind all that this "withdrawal," in the name of vague principles and the feelings of other's mothers, was a sham. Just more mirrors and curtains. ===*===Whatever it takes. By the way, that's not ticker tape....it's toilet paper! WOO....never mind.Name Withheld by Request
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I want to add my recommendation for Reitnut, Ralph Block. As far as I know, he only posts on the Real Estate and REITs board, so he might not be as widely known as some who post on several boards. But, I think Ralph exemplifies the phrase, Learning Together.He is eminently qualified on the subject of Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITs). He has written and updated what is probably the most respected book on the subject. He runs a dedicated REIT mutual fund. He exemplifies a "helper" - one who helps others to learn, and he credits the rest of us with helping him learn. He takes a lot of time in patiently answering questions - frequently long detailed answers.But the thing I most admire about Ralph is that he treats every poster with polite respect - beginners to the most experienced.We who read and post on the Real Estate and REIT board are most fortunate to have a friend like Ralph - a man we have never met - but one whom we all admire and love.He as many posts that can be cited as examples. Three recent ones, all on the Real Estate and REIT board, are numbers 15891, 16511, and 16591.
Golly gee RJ!You've got to be REALLY TIREDfrom answering all those Questionson the Brain Salad Surgeons board.http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=18215273
I would like to nominate IllinoisGEM for the Feste Award. For myself, he has contributed to both my investing research, and the Humor and Urban Legends board, a board which I founded several months ago. He is probably best well known on the Mechanical Investing and BBQ, Art of, boards. I will let others express their feelings about him in their own words."I never met Gerry personally, and didn't know him except through a few phone calls, some emails, and his posts to the board, but it is clear to me that he had a great deal of passion for MI (and, it seems, barbequeing), and he put great effort into those interests. He was, quite simply, a 'giver', not a 'taker'. He enjoyed sharing a laugh, and he made sure to offer congratulations and kind words often, and with sincerity. He made the Fool a more positive experience for many of us, and for that he will be sorely missed." -- deanwoodward"I think we most certainly must continue his work and assure that his work continues." -- MoeBruin"It's strange, feeling so sad about someone I've never met." -- mrtoast"Oh, but you had met him. Perhaps not physically but you had met him. We all had. Just like you've met me and I've met you. I read your posts. I listen to what you have to say and I imagine that you read mine. In this way we meet each other. And in a very real sense, we come to know one another." -- DoLoop"If I was on a soapbox, on many occasions, I was talking to IllinoisGEM. One of the first columns I wrote here was pretty controversial, all about whether or not an investment I had in Indonesia was helping kill people. OK, perhaps it was a bit melodramatic, but some of the responses I received were pretty unkind. That was the first time I got some correspondence from Gerry. It said "Atta boy!", and then he'd offer me some more stuff to think about. We corresponded some -- a fair bit for a while. But I would always know when I bowled a strike when I'd get an "atta boy!" from IllinoisGEM." -- Bill Mann, TMFOtter"Just a little while ago IllinoisGEM replied to one of my posts and wrote, "Count your blessings."" -- Holg"Gem was a gem, indeed, he is well loved here. I have no idea how to pay tribute, I never even knew his real name. I only know that he spread a lot of warmth and care around here, and a lot of humor, a lot of kindness.-- blackmare"GEM was such a lovely person, and so thoughtful in his posts." -- 3blackdogs"GEM, I'm so glad I had a chance to get to know you." -- chezjohn****Links:The above quotes were taken from the following threads. Hopefully, they will show what IllinoisGEM meant to us as a community. I'll end with a post quoted by 3blackdogs.Mechanical Investing:http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17693493&sort=whole#17700496Art of BBQ:http://fireboards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17693563&sort=wholePost quoted by 3blackdogs:http://fireboards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17465402*****Blackdogs asked: "From one who is tentatively in the crosshairs of the marital rifle, I'd appreciate whatever words of wisdom, warning or humor you can offer!!"Blackdogs,This is a good question, and one my wife and I have pondered frequently during our relationship. Essentially, we continually wonder why we are blessed with the same feeling about each other today, which we had when we first began dating.I haven't responded to your question until now, mainly because my wife and I have yet to come up with a definitive answer. But in spite of that (and at the risk of sounding corny, being way off topic, and boring the heck out of everyone), here are our collective thoughts.First and foremost we believe a major contributing factor is that we have been each other's best friend since before we began dating. In addition, we each share a group of people that we each consider as friends (some of them since our teen years).We've noticed that we share a common trait in how we pick our friends. We don't choose friends based on what they can do for us. Instead, our friends are people with whom we share common interests, enjoy being with, and whom we accept regardless of their faults. In other words we focus on their good traits and accept their faults without being judgmental.We've also noticed that we each get excitement out of the others accomplishments or excitement, even if its in areas that are of little individual interest to the other. For example my wife has little interest in fishing, but will accompany me on fishing trips. This is because she enjoys the outdoors, nature, canoeing, scenery, etc.. While I'm fishing, she is right along side me knitting, or reading, etc..Likewise, I do not enjoy sewing or knitting, but I enjoy the results. When she is in a fabric shop looking at sewing and knitting things, I'm right along side looking at scissors, needle threaders, thread, etc.. that I can use to add to my fly tying tool kit.In other words neither of us has ever attempted to force our individual likes or dislikes on the other, but we both go overboard in an attempt to find ways we can share in (and enjoy) the other's interests. This helps to build on to the number of interests we share in common.On the other hand, we each recognize the need to give the other space, so that neither of us ever feels smothered by the other.We each respect the others feelings, and monitor our own actions to guard against being responsible for actions which will cause the other embarrassment, concern or disappointment.We also share the same love for children, and agree on how to raise them. We treat each of our boys as individuals, and never ever attempt to mold them into extensions of us, or into a "model child" we may have read about in a book. Also, we never compare any of the boys against the other. We enjoy their positive traits, and attempt to "coach" them in improving their weaker traits (only if it was important for them to improve, or they seriously want to improve).Hopefully you aren't bored to tears by now, but you asked and I tried to give you an honest answer. There are many other things my wife and I thought of, but those above (in addition to those listed by blford (a.k.a Bill F.) in his response to you at <http://fireboards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17463858> ) should cover the major points.I do know one thing. We feel blessed that we do feel this way about each other, and that we share the same thoughts on how to treat each other, as well as other people.Together, we have been able to cope with life's continual surprises as a team. We're in it together, for life. So far it has been a fabulous ride.Best of luck in your journey. If you are lucky enough to be half as happy and my wife and I are, you will be doing good.Hope this helps,IllinoisGEM
I would like to nominate IllinoisGEM for the Feste Award.http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17056830&sort=wholeIllinoisGEM sent me an email response to the above expressing gratitude for the kind words and stated "In fact, your message brought tears to this old man's eyes." No one else I have ever met online has so clearly expressed emotions indicating the depth of commitment to his beliefs as Gerry Metcalfe. He was a wonderful man whose contributions to the Fool community were truly stunning in both quantity and quality. I am proud to have known him and lucky to have had the opportunity to work with him.Neil
I would like to nominate Redsavina. Although her posts don't typically deal with personal finance and investing, she always seems to make us think. Her posts are always well thought out, usually teaches you something, are frequently amusing, and definitely enriching. Isn't that the point of the boards.The following posts show what a post should be:Her "fat greasy sugary 2 cents" on the American diet:Fat Americans, School Lunch, and Soda Taxhttp://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17064101Red teaches how to become a more complete person:The Funning Down:http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=17645395This is a personal finance site, isn't it?Debt-Free and Living Well http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=16936535
I said: It would be interesting to attempt to figure out how much money that person has lost for those who attempt to turn the alchemy/BS of mechanical investing into actual cash.Here's a data point:http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=18710369UsuallyReasonable
Here's a data point:===*===Why is it people are incapable of putting in a SELL-STOP oda ten or fifteen percent below where they purchased a stock/below a recent high?
Why is it people are incapable of putting in a SELL-STOP oda ten or fifteen percent below where they purchased a stock/below a recent high? Here's three for free :GreedFearPrideHope that helps.gnos<really>
Why is it people are incapable of putting in a SELL-STOP oda ten or fifteen percent below where they purchased a stock/below a recent high? Here's three for free :GreedFearPrideHope that helps.I can add one more.Having a personal problem so vast and overwhelming you don't pay full attention.Nancywho came back from the overwhelming personal problem in time to notice that Cisco was at the funeral home.
Sorry to hear that Nancy.On another note as is my new custom I am recing posts that quote me as a way of indirectly getting recs. I've noticed that my posts rarely get rec while those that quote my posts get a few recs.gnos<coupling>
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