Fools,It's that Fest'e'ive time once again. For those of you who don't know what the Feste Award is, check out the links at the bottom for a description and previous year's "Feste"ivities.The winning Fool will receive an All Access Pass to all of our premium content! That includes everything on this page, and much more! http://www.fool.com/shop/newsletters/index.aspxAs always, we'd like to bestow The Feste Award on one member of the community who best exemplifies our mission of Learning Together:http://www.fool.com/community/mission.htmBecause this is a community award, the nominations for this award should bubble up from within. We'd like to use this discussion board to accept your nominations for The Feste Award. In order to nominate someone, you must include the following:- member name- a few paragraphs detailing why this person deserves the award- links to 3 posts from 2012 that exemplify this person's dedication to the community and to Learning Together.We'll accept submissions through March 14, review them internally, and whittle the list down to 10 candidates. From there, we'll let the community vote to determine the winner of the eleventh annual Feste Award!A few points to mention:- this isn't a lifetime achievement award. The winner should be chosen based on contributions from 2012 only.- you must list 3 posts (boards or CAPS blog)from 2012 that exemplify the person's Feste deserving contributions or your nomination will not be considered.- you must write a few lines about why this person is deserving or your nomination will not be considered.- the more thoughtful your nomination, the more likely we'll give your candidate serious consideration.- Past winners are exempt from this year's balloting and simply take their rightful places in the pantheon of community Fools. Past nominees who didn't win may be nominated again. Past winners will have a Feste Award winner charm on their board posts and profile, as will the nominees.- TMF staff, despite how much you may love them are not eligible, though I'm sure they'd still love it if you sang their praises.We always enjoy doing this and hope you do as well. Have fun!RichardExplanation of the Name and Origination of the Feste Award:http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=15948376Past Feste winner and runners-up:2011: LeKitKathttp://caps.fool.com/Blogs/2011-feste-award-winner/724675
I would like to nominate Elly105 - I will look up and post some of her 2012 posts.Bob
Well, maybe an exception can be made in this instance, Richard.I see this post in 2006:http://boards.fool.com/aolfoolman-i-do-read-and-lurk-when-i-...And this one: http://boards.fool.com/celebrating-the-life-of-michaelread-3...I guess she probably spent more time reading and inspiring Michael's posts than she did posting directly to the boards.
I was wondering who would be cynical enough to nominate MichaelRead. Turns out I underestimated the depths that people would reach for a couple of recs.I nominate JABoahttp://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=12090361http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=12601957http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=14109463http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=14244300http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=14394650
As a tribute to MichaelRead, should we all self-promote this year?
As a tribute to MichaelRead, should we all self-promote this year?Only if we can do it at least half as well as he did.Nancy
Only if we can do it at least half as well as he did.I'm out.
I was wondering who would be cynical enough to nominate MichaelRead.I didn't do that.Certainly, there are many deserving community members worthy of an award for their contributions. I felt Elly worthy of consideration for this one.I think Michael probably would have liked to have seen the award continued, with fond memories of his contributions.Bob
Whomever wins, it was by default because Mr Read wasn't around. JediG
TMFTwitty,I suppose this is a MF system wide contest. I speak for just two, a very cherished one, a very profitable one, a most educational one, and putting the two together is a complete package. My membership goes back to Feb, 2009, just a few months after a new service was begun.So, with some history, and a lot of reading, I respectfully submit the following recommendation for the 2012 Feste Award.Stamleo is my nominee for The Feste AwardWe can always depend on Leo to keep us up to date on Quarterly reports. How can a newbie miss that Pro will have an update soon on What We Think Now? Very valuable to me to discover Leo’s being on top of our companies.No one finds, and reminds us of our teams work like Leo. Wish I could find the post where he went though all the steps you guys take, and ended with this “gotcha”. “That’s where Bryan’s updates come in handy”. (Going by memory on this quote). Too kind, yet so succinct.There is so much more about Leo that I admire, and follow all his posts, as they every one does a new thing, awakens my curiosity, stokes my interest, or educates my ignorance. He, IMHO, is one of the best assets you team members have. To support that premise, I submit the following posts as examples.Memo Musings re: Allocation Mattershttp://boards.fool.com/1228/alex-no-long-only-port-can-do-th...Keeps up on Corporate Notificationshttp://boards.fool.com/1228/continued-buyback-30246568.aspx?...http://boards.fool.com/1228/q3-earnings-30354921.aspx?sort=r...http://boards.fool.com/1228/draying-more-yamaha-30262433.asp...Thinks Outside the box:http://boards.fool.com/1228/fletch-to-add-to-the-discussion-...A Gentle Giant to disgruntled members:http://boards.fool.com/1228/efti-i-had-a-better-look-at-your...Excellent comparisons, Analysishttp://boards.fool.com/1228/jeff-if-i-calculate-the-debit-fo...Broad exposure to our companies:http://boards.fool.com/1228/graftech-and-volatility-28235913...Most helpful on strategies:http://boards.fool.com/1228/mjb-your-hope-is-to-generate-inc...Knows our site map, and helps us find stuff like no other:http://boards.fool.com/1228/i-have-seen-a-link-or-two-showin...Knows news resources like no other:http://boards.fool.com/1228/revised-outlook-after-sandy-3037...Critical thinker, and Strategist:http://boards.fool.com/1228/rbutkys-i-thought-about-your-las...Does the work to support Pro in very ingenious ways:http://boards.fool.com/1228/jjnewcs-you-have-already-receive...The man is full of creative comparison strategies:http://boards.fool.com/1228/tang-xu-paper-30162469.aspx?sort...Sharp beyond belief:http://boards.fool.com/1228/gillkumer-okay-but-what-about-th...The light touch with humor for the Banter:http://boards.fool.com/1228/if-the-article-is-correct-that-i...Unique thinker, and Challengerhttp://boards.fool.com/1228/bubba-i-looked-around-and-found-...Gene Up staged by Ozzie (85), so a name change is in the works.
Thanks Gene! Yes, nominations can come from free boards, premium boards, and CAPS blogs.Richard
nominations can come from free boards, premium boards, and CAPS blogs.I always complain about this, and will retain the habit. I wish there was some way that TMF could make the referenced posts on the premium boards available to the rest of us, so that we could decide whether or not we want to vote for that person. At least, when the CAPS nominations come in, we can read those.Nancy
Gene,Thank you for the nomination, and all the work that must have gone into it.However, I must decline this nomination, respectfully. As I wrote last year, when an attempt to nominate didn't make it out of the Pro service community, I think that the Feste award should be restricted to the public board posters:I confine myself in this TMF online community about exclusively to the Pro boards. After I recommended Rich for the Feste award board, I looked around on that forum for a while and got the clear impression that there is an active community of users on the public boards that seems really annoyed by the fact that they cannot check out the contributions from a recommended Fool who lives in a gated community of one of the paid services. There is obviously a dichotomy created in the larger Fool community with the introduction of the paid services that was never properly addressed by TMF when it comes to things as the Feste award. We rallied successfully behind Ed last year and I am sure we could have done the same thing with Rich this year. At the same time, I realize now, that contributes to the fact that the public board Fools are turning away from the whole thing, as illustrated by the really meager crop of recommendations this year.If TMF wants to continue honoring some Fools in special ways, it seems to me that they better first solve this dichotomy that has been created. Though I feel a part of the Pro community, I don't feel part of the larger TMF community. The Feste award is obviously not a Pro community award; if anything, it is something for the public boards of TMF, for which it was created. In as far as it means anything, it should not be based on which subcommunity can organize the troops best.(from a post on 3/9/2012 on one of the Pro boards; for Gene's sake, the link is: http://boards.fool.com/1228/nick-first-of-all-thank-you-for-... ).Thanks again.Regards,Leo--
I think that the Feste award should be restricted to the public board postersHi Leo!I appreciated your thoughtfulness in nominating me last year (under my old name), and declined for a variety of reasons. Although I did not articulate those reasons fully, in truth an important factor was that I share your opinion that this award should go to someone who posts on the public boards. (I hasten to point out that I developed this view *after* being actively involved in supporting Ed, the redoubtable Spinningwood, for the award in the prior year.)There are some amazing contributors to the public boards – I have been hanging out on the METAR board recently, and that board will nominate a truly worthy candidate sometime soon. I do not want to jump the gun and reveal his (her?) name, but there is absolutely no doubt that he is a deserving nominee. (Perhaps you will find time at some point to take a swim in the METAR pool – you will find at least a few kindred spirits, and possibly even a few similar talents, there.)All of that said, your contributions to the Pro boards are so overwhelming, and so selfless, that you deserve some sort of recognition. I am posting this here because everyone in the Pro community knows and respects your effort and ability – there is no one, in any part of the broad MF community, who does more. So, although I agree that you should not be part of the Feste festivities (an alluring alliteration, eh?) for the reason you articulate, I cannot pass up this opportunity to thank you, and toot your horn just a bit, in this public forum.So, thank you Leo. And well done, at so many different levels!Very best personal regards,Rich
Stamleo, I hope you don't think I'm protesting your nomination. I just want the Fool to find a way to make the recommended posts accessible to the community at large. A copy-and-paste of the original post would be fine. I just don't feel I can vote fairly if I don't know what some people said.HTHNancy
Leo,Wow! I am so naive. Thanks again for the heads up. I only look at the PRO board. Did not realize the existence of "Public" boards. Makes me glad I did not have the time until this year to even check out Feste, (or Spinningwoods contest either.) Bottom line, your (and Rich's) decline is noble, but the Feste just took a dive in my book, and my time will be spent in a more productive cause. At 82 one begins to count each day as precious, ( loved Carps mom's "you are not old til 90")."the work that must have gone into it." Cheers, my man, that was part of my fun. Pulling strategies together, and relating to other sharp brains (not saying mine is) is business to the best degree. The Pro board is better than being on a board of directors with Buffett, and nick is right about there being several fools that make it so, Of whom, in my surfing last year, you are the Chief. Sit at the head of the table. That is my Pro "Family" award to you. More noble is your handling of the petty stuff that sometimes shows it's mindless ingratitude for the in depth work that our PRO team does.Gene Who is glad Joe Biden is not on this board. (Just an Example of Hoof & Mouth Disease.)
Rich,Well, thanks for heaping even more undeserved praise on me.Nevertheless, coming from you that is certainly much appreciated! I do check out the METAR board once in a while (especially when you include a link in one of your Pro posts). It seems a little rougher around the edges there. More baiting and such.Thanks and best regards,Leo--
I hope you don't think I'm protesting your nomination. Nancy,I have no reason to think so. As I wrote, my opinion about the Feste Award and the various communities within TMF was formed during last year's nominations, well before your current complaint about TMF's strategy or lack thereof.Regards,Leo--
Windowseat," I wish there was some way that TMF could make the referenced posts on the premium boards available to the rest of us," (There is a way).The wisest post on this board! You are one smart lady. Or it could be instincts. If so, take action on that feminine asset, if that is what is kicking in. The ability to read boards comments of Jeff, Nick, Bryan, Daisy, Leo, Carp, Rockytop, 99, and a dozen others is worth the fees. Then you also get links to interesting comments elsewhere. Our fools are widely read. Plus, occasionally, some of the most interesting threads I love to follow, even tho I don't have unreserved/waiting cash to act sometimes. What a fun trip! (At my level of investing, it is better, educationally & strategically, than being on a Board of Directors with WB).Gene Watch for Pro to open next year, and treat yourself with a membership. (The way.) I have made my fees and more (in cash) in the first few weeks in each of the 4 years I have been a Pro. Try it, you will like it, plus you can get a refund of unused fee if it doesn't fit your investing goals.
Like Windowseat (Nancy), I wish that TMF would provide allow everyone to see the linked posts during the Feste Award contest. It is rather disconcerting to click on a link and get a big, fat "NO."I am sure that all elite persons from the paid boards who chimed in to this thread (including Leo and OldestInvestor) are as delightfully articulate and erudite as ADrumlinDaisy, who has recently joined METAR (the Macroeconomic Trends and Risks Board) to great acclaim. Perhaps the free boards seem like the wrong side of the track to paid TMFers (despite the fact that the original mission of The Fool was to provide a free forum for ordinary people to teach each other how to invest, independent of "The Wise" -- professional investment advisors).Please feel free to visit and even to join METAR.http://boards.fool.com/macro-economic-trends-and-risks-11490...I think it would be fair to run candidates from the paid boards if their posts were copied and pasted into the nominating post in their entirety, so everyone could read them.Of course, that small sample would exclude the deeper body of work over the past year, which people from the free boards would not be able to access on the paid boards.Wendy
<Windowseat, ...The wisest post on this board! You are one smart lady. Or it could be instincts. If so, take action on that feminine asset, if that is what is kicking in.The ability to read boards comments of Jeff, Nick, Bryan, Daisy, Leo, Carp, Rockytop, 99, and a dozen others is worth the fees....Watch for Pro to open next year, and treat yourself with a membership. >Hopefully, Windowseat (Nancy) will not find this as condescending and irritating as I do!1. Feminine intuition asset kicking in. ... my <omitted in the interest of being ladylike>! I'm sure you are a nice old dinosaur, Gene, and don't realize what an offensive statement this is.2. The origin of The Motley Fools was for ordinary people to freely share investment ideas. Many of us on the original free boards consider the paid boards to be a sellout in which the Gardiner brothers became exactly what they once despised, though we understand that TMF needs a source of income to maintain the web site.Reading this makes me absolutely SURE that the Feste Award should be restricted to those who carry on the original TMF vision -- to Educate, Amuse and Enrich -- freely and for the pleasure of helping each other.Wendy
Wendy,:Hopefully, Windowseat (Nancy) will not find this as condescending and irritating as I do!"Sorry, this "old dinosaur," (guilty as charged) happen to enjoy the high class that my wife displays in feminine intuition. I depend on her a lot, for as a man, I can think with only one side of my brain at a time, where you ladies can us both at the same time, according to people who study that sort of thing, and I rather think they are on target. OR.......... maybe I just happen to have the enjoyment/company of a super sharp woman.In any case, a note to windowseat.......I too, hope you are not offended in any way. You have a Feste nominee logo, so you obviously are a pretty helpful person. It would be selfish of me to wish you were with Pro, due to my limited time. Normally, much of my time at 82 is spent with a new baby in the house, and maintaining this old frame of mine.It gives me great pleasure, Wendy, to grant you one of your desires before I express my own. "Reading this makes me absolutely SURE that the Feste Award should be restricted to those who carry on the original TMF vision -- to Educate, Amuse and Enrich -- freely and for the pleasure of helping each other." Grant: Forever restricted to Oldmangene henceforth.My own: One shot at me, shame on you, two shots at me, shame on me.Gene From the other (wrong) side of the tracks, but making the best of it
In any case, a note to windowseat.......I too, hope you are not offended in any way. You have a Feste nominee logo, so you obviously are a pretty helpful person. It would be selfish of me to wish you were with Pro, due to my limited time. Normally, much of my time at 82 is spent with a new baby in the house, and maintaining this old frame of mine.Gene, I wasn't offended, but there was a tiny eye roll. I don't have a lot of money. Most of my investments are in 401(k)s, which means that I am restricted to whatever offerings the plan has. I'm not sure how much benefit one of the paid plans would offer, so I'm going to have to say no to your invitation.But one of the nice things about the Fool is that there is room for everyone. There are a lot of people on the open boards who don't have much money, and there are others who have a lot. Sharing information, learning together, is part of the fun. I hope at some point you'll browse the open boards and see what we have to offer. There are social boards, information boards, boards geared toward pet owners, sports, gardeners, having children (and not having children), and hundreds of other topics.Everyone is welcome!Nancy
<Sorry, this "old dinosaur," (guilty as charged) happen to enjoy the high class that my wife displays in feminine intuition. I depend on her a lot, for as a man, I can think with only one side of my brain at a time, where you ladies can us both at the same time, according to people who study that sort of thing, and I rather think they are on target. OR.......... maybe I just happen to have the enjoyment/company of a super sharp woman.>I apologize, Gene, for being snippy with you.I am a scientist who trained in the early 1970s, when women (including me) were discouraged from entering science in many ways.One of these ways was by men saying, condescendingly, that women have "intuition" while men were analytical. The adviser for my college science department was only one of the many men who tried to lay this counterproductive and false dichotomy on me. (I scored in the 99th percentile on the math SAT, the math National Merit Scholarship test and the math N.Y. State Regents scholarship exam, so nobody could tell me that I wasn't analytical.) Fortunately, I ignored him and all the others and became a professional chemist -- but I also became allergic to male stereotypes that said that women couldn't be analytical because they were intuitive. Actually, intuition is the willingness of any person (male or female) to connect neural networks that recognize patterns, whether visual, social or sensory. It also requires the willingness to value the pattern that is recognized. Anyone who willfully cuts off an important source of information -- as misogynistic cultures train men to reject "feminine" intuition -- is cutting off their nose to spite their face.It is possible that you bypassed the past 40 years of brain research and women's academic achievement that shows that both women and men have both analytical skill and intuition -- if they train their brain circuits to access and use these abilities. The right and left sides of the human brain, including the male brain, are connected by the corpus callosum and have plenty of neural networks that communicate.Should (God forbid) you have a stroke and the left side of your brain be damaged, it is possible to retrain alternate brain circuits to compensate. http://www.amazon.com/Brain-That-Changes-Itself-Frontiers/dp...Western (male) philosophers have for hundreds of years set up false dichotomies, such as nature/ nurture, intuition/ analytical and right brain/ left brain. Recent research shows that there are no dichotomies, but there are interactions between many variables. It is absolutely possible to adjust any of the variables (except, to our current knowledge, DNA -- although it is possible to influence epigenetic factors).There is a balance and the balance is important.Recent research shows that older people can learn new things and can even change the neural structure of their own brain with practice (plasticity).I am sure that your wife is super-sharp in more ways than intuition. I'm also sure that she is truly a lady in the classic sense of the word and would never dream of trying to shift your stereotypes one millimeter ;-).Wendy
I am very thankful the Gardners went to a paid model so all the boards could continue. Without the change in business model the entire Fool community likely would have ended when the power company shut the lights out after bankruptcy circa 2002.As for the cost of the paid subscriptions they are among the best values by far in the investment world.Hodges
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