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Elliot Spitzer is running for NYC Comptroller against Kristen Davis (who's running as a libertarian)...Who is Kristen Davis? She's the madame who Spitzer used when he was known as "Client #9"

Also running for office in 2013 for Mayor is Anthony Weiner.

Wow we have a guy who liked to send pictures of his "Weiner" to women...a guy who hired hookers and the woman who supplied the hoookers all running for office in NYC this cycle. You still have Charlie Rangel in office (tax cheat who actually was incharge of writing the tax laws)

You can't make this stuff up.

BTW, I think Davis would make a better comptroller than Spitzer. Davis has a proven track record of running a complex business and keeping very accurate books. (Or so the FBI stated when they sent her to jail)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/08/kristin-davis_n_356...

BTW, anyone have an issue with Davis being allowed to be Comptroller? She actually the only one who went to jail for committing a crime.
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Two Jews looking for redemption. (Could be a Samuel Beckett play.)

Seems VERY New York to me.

Ken
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I don't care who they elect, I don't live there.
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I don't care who they elect, I don't live there.

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Doesn't mean you can't find it amusing or entertaining.

The idea of seeing Davis and Spitzer on the same stage for the Comptroller debate has to have some interest. It might be the first time someone actually watches a debate for NYC Comptroller.
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I just find it disheartening that the sexual escapades of these candidates is going to generate more attention than anything non-sexual they might do if elected.

When Americans finally grow up and get over this puritanical sexual guilt complex we might be able to move forward as a society.
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I think it says more about the state of politics, and who is willing to run. Are these the best candidates available? Obviously not. How in the world does a guy like Marion Berry get re-elected? Did you watch the republican debates in the last election cycle? It's very disheartening to know that many great people refuse to seek office because of the constant and brutal scrutiny we put on candidates regarding their personal lives. What you end up with is people with no morals, brains, shame, ethics...etc. These are people who will say anything to get elected, regardless of previous actions. So when a new scandal arrives daily about one of our elected officials...not only are we not surprised, regardless of affiliation, we are able to forgive and forget after a very short news cycle....truly pathetic...
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Did you watch the republican debates in the last election cycle?

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Yup, a pathetic group for sure...and the worst part, everyone of them would have done a better job than Obama. Which is truely scary.

We have a generation of people who haven't seen any great people in Public office. Who was the last politician who was above it all, who you felt was cared more about America than enriching themselves?
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We have a generation of people who haven't seen any great people in Public office. Who was the last politician who was above it all, who you felt was cared more about America than enriching themselves?

Obama. Before him, Clinton. Before him, Carter. Before him, Kennedy. None were close to rich by Republican standards except Kennedy, and he didnt earn it in office.

In fact, it turns out that none of them were Republicans at all.

I wonder if there's some kind of correlation there.
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Yup, a pathetic group for sure...and the worst part, everyone of them would have done a better job than Obama. Which is truely scary.

Bachmann? Santorum? Yeah, right. Maybe the Fundies think so, but not the rest of us.
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Obama. Before him, Clinton. Before him, Carter. Before him, Kennedy.

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I wouldn't say Kennedy is this generation and he wasn't a great President. He was one that can't be judged due to a short time, although he had highs and lows (tax cuts, Bay of Pigs and so on).

Carter was awful, one of the worst, but he's more than a generation ago...as was Reagan. The current generation probably starts with Clinton, (maybe Bush I) and he was all about himself, heck we were in recession when he left (started in March 2000)...and Obama is making Carter look like Lincoln. No, none of the Presidents in the past generation were great.
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Bachmann? Santorum? Yeah, right. Maybe the Fundies think so, but not the rest of us.

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I didn't say they'd be good at all...just better than the current guy. That's not exactly a high standard. It's like being the tallest jockey or most honest politician.

There's no way they could have been worse.
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Did you watch the republican debates in the last election cycle?

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Yup, a pathetic group for sure...and the worst part, everyone of them would have done a better job than Obama. Which is truely scary.


What's truly scary is that you actually think that ... and seem to be unaware that saying so out loud is setting you up for having No.Credibility.Whatsoever.



We have a generation of people who haven't seen any great people in Public office. Who was the last politician who was above it all, who you felt was cared more about America than enriching themselves?

Barack Obama. Chris Christie. Elizabeth Warren. Joe Biden. That's the first four that come to mind. God help me, I can even see John McCain making the cut though the Palin thing is a huge blow to his "cares about America" bona fides.

My list, of course, is not going to pass muster with the any number of political cults whose idea of "caring about America" involves hating Liberals, being afraid of Muslims, seeing military intervention as a first choice in any foreign relations entanglement, drowning Government in the bathtub, or advancing a throwback agenda that would bring America back to those wonderful days when "birth control" involved the girls holding an aspirin between their knees.

But, I ask, if you think any of my choices don't "care about America" then what the heck are they in politcs for? It sure as hell isn't the money, because any one of them was making better money on the outside. What, you think Elizabeth Warren gets off on having the Biggest and Most Corrupt Money putting a target (perhaps figuratively, perhaps not) on her back? What about Joe Biden - what makes a man dedicate himself to his office so completely for decades when he could have achieved generational wealth (far beyond the modest wealth he's already achieved) by trading in public service to be possibly the most valued lobbyist in US history? What about Chris Christie, who cared about his duty to the people that got him elected that he turned down a sure bet at personal aspiration in 2012? Even John McCain, another senate lifer like Joe Biden who just seems to get off on being a stalwart holdout for upholding some measure of professional standards among the maggot recruits in the Senate ranks?

Lastly, you really think President Obama, easily the most articulate, thoughtful, mentally and morally stable President in the modern era, and with a rare gift for connecting with the common man from the rare air of high office - you think he is just mooching off the free room and board on the ultimate affirmative action free ride?

Really? I'm shaking my head and squinting my eyes at the idea that anyone could be so... gah. Can't do it. If I allow myself to speak plainly here I'm FA'd for sure.
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What's truly scary is that you actually think that ... and seem to be unaware that saying so out loud is setting you up for having No.Credibility.Whatsoever.

I love statements like this. Because they're generally followed up by...

Lastly, you really think President Obama, easily the most articulate, thoughtful, mentally and morally stable President in the modern era, and with a rare gift for connecting with the common man from the rare air of high office - you think he is just mooching off the free room and board on the ultimate affirmative action free ride?

...over the top, laugh out loud nonsense like this. Say, ever wonder how Geri Ryan's kids feel about her divorce records being unsealed?
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Obama. Before him, Clinton. Before him, Carter.

Carter cared about America enough to tell her citizens to tighten their belts and put on a sweater. Perhaps he knew that suggesting Americans make such a small gesture of personal responsibility for the good of THEIR country would be turned into a joke for the small-minded and short-sighted to chuckle over.

Carter was destroyed by the same insidious machine that profits from having fake-Cowboy figureheads like Reagan and Bush in the Executive.
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...over the top, laugh out loud nonsense like this.

Laugh on, chuckles.


Say, ever wonder how Geri Ryan's kids feel about her divorce records being unsealed?

Gawd. You're serious about this, aren't you? Tinfoil ... need more tinfoil ...

If I thought about things like this often, I'd wonder more about how Jeri Ryan's kids feel about their mother being "material" for Trekkie fantasy sites.

But thanks for the brief glimpse down the rabbit hole.
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Laugh on, chuckles.

At over the top left wing stuff here on PA? You bet I will. Next thing you'll tell me is that Obama is a deft handler of crises and a quick decision maker.

Gawd. You're serious about this, aren't you? Tinfoil ... need more tinfoil ...

I'm merely asking a question. Of course to you it's totally out of the realm of possibility that Obama or his team had anything to do with it. Because Illinois politics are so clean and all.

Lulz.

If I thought about things like this often, I'd wonder more about how Jeri Ryan's kids feel about their mother being "material" for Trekkie fantasy sites.

But thanks for the brief glimpse down the rabbit hole.


Left wing paeans to Obama aren't rabbit holes. More like outhouse holes.
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Say, ever wonder how Geri Ryan's kids feel about her divorce records being unsealed?

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Like the rest of us, having to deal with Obama's America. Royally screwed.
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Left wing paeans to Obama aren't rabbit holes. More like outhouse holes.

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More like Branch Davidians and Obama is Korsech. They think he's a diety, when he's fraud.
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I just find it disheartening that the sexual escapades of these candidates is going to generate more attention than anything non-sexual they might do if elected.

We already know what they will do if elected. They will do what ever it takes to further their personal agenda and if this goes against the better interests of the citizens, then the hell with the citizens.
That's what politicians do.
So if we already know that, we might as well talk about the funny stuff.
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Elliot Spitzer is running for NYC Comptroller against Kristen Davis (who's running as a libertarian)...Who is Kristen Davis? She's the madame who Spitzer used when he was known as "Client #9"

I am not bothered by Spitzer's candidacy - I find it freaky, however, that Wiener apparently still has a political career.
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Say, ever wonder how Geri Ryan's kids feel about her divorce records being unsealed?

You made me google.
It's "Jeri Ryan" btw., or alternatively, "Seven of Nine".

And now I guess I'm going to have S&M Borg sex fantasies.
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I am not bothered by Spitzer's candidacy - I find it freaky, however, that Wiener apparently still has a political career.

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And yet Weiner didn't break the law. Spitzer did.
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It's "Jeri Ryan" btw., or alternatively, "Seven of Nine".

We always called her Six of Nine.
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And yet Weiner didn't break the law. Spitzer did.

I come from a country where his behavior would have been perfectly legal, and I can't really get worked up about it.
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I come from a country where his behavior would have been perfectly legal, and I can't really get worked up about it.

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It is legal in parts of this Country as well, but regardless it's about his disregard of the law. You can't just ignore the law because it's legal elsewhere or you disagree with it.
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Kennedy is this generation and he wasn't a great President. He was one that can't be judged due to a short time, although he had highs and lows (tax cuts, Bay of Pigs and so on).

Your definition of great is too narrow. You treat presidency as a checklist of events. Kennedy transcended that as great leaders do. Inspired a generation of gifted people to enter public service. Rekindled American spirit of adventure going to the moon, and admiration of American ideals by poor people worldwide. They don't have Nixon or Bush's photo on the walls of their shacks, they have Kennedy's.

Your man Raygun has a nightmare list of checklist failures but you probably still love him because you think he was a leader. His legacy was to inspire the current crop of pathetic Republicans. What an embarrassment.
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It is legal in parts of this Country as well, but regardless it's about his disregard of the law. You can't just ignore the law because it's legal elsewhere or you disagree with it.


That is true, but it wouldn't keep me from supporting Spitzer.
He's one of the few people in politics who seems to understand the toxic nature of America's modern day financial sector.
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That is true, but it wouldn't keep me from supporting Spitzer.
He's one of the few people in politics who seems to understand the toxic nature of America's modern day financial sector.


Heh. He'll get the job done regardless of the rules he breaks. How very...German...of you.

PS. Google "Hank Greenberg prosecution".
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnbcs-maria-bartiromo-hammers-eli...
Former New York State Attorney General and host of Current TV’s The Viewpoint, Eliot Spitzer, appeared on CNBC with Maria Bartiromo to discuss why six of eight charges his office brought against the investment firm AIG and its leadership, specifically Maurice “Hank” Greenberg, were dropped. The interview became contentious when Bartiromo hammered Spitzer for going after Greenberg for personal reasons – a charge corroborated by his former colleagues when he served as Attorney General.

RELATED: Eliot Spitzer On CNN’s Woes: ‘There’s No Objectivity In Network News’

Spitzer said that they should deal in facts about AIG, rather than the recently dropped charges. “Hank Greenberg was thrown out by his own board…”

“Under pressure from you,” Bartiromo said, cutting him off. “In fact, some would say that the collapse of AIG lays at your feet because if Hank Greenberg was there he would not have allowed some of that craziness and that risk to be taken on.”

“There are still some people who think that the sun revolves around the Earth,” replied Spitzer. “Hang Greenberg’s accounting was fraudulent.”

“Come on,” replied an increasingly agitated Bartiromo. “You can’t say fraudulent because there is no indictment. You can’t just throw around the word fraud.”


Stand up guy, that Spitzer,
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That is true, but it wouldn't keep me from supporting Spitzer.
He's one of the few people in politics who seems to understand the toxic nature of America's modern day financial sector.
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http://boards.fool.com/the-spitzer-debacle-30767281.aspx

Even the NY Times editorial board has Spitzer redux.

There will always be candidates for public office who are ethically compromised, temperamentally unsuitable and politically incompetent, but if they insist on running anyway, who has the right to tell them not to? Campaigns sort out the good public servants from the bad.

That said, Eliot Spitzer’s bid to recycle himself by running for New York City comptroller is unnerving on many levels, and not just because he has suddenly decided to undo the buckles of self-restraint that used to keep disgraced ex-politicians (for soliciting prostitutes, in his case) from re-entering the public sphere. Beyond that, there are Mr. Spitzer’s colossal failures in what he did and didn’t do as governor of New York. ....

Desperately needed reforms were thwarted, opportunities lost — and it was more than a sexual scandal that made Mr. Spitzer’s truncated governorship an exceptional debacle in a capital city that is debacle central. It was that he saw himself as a “steamroller” instead of a leader, that he stoked alienation and resentment in his allies as well as his adversaries, the opposite of what a competent politician should do.

New Yorkers, like all citizens, deserve serious and thoughtful political campaigns, but between Anthony Weiner, the former sexting congressman, and Client 9 (the name given to Mr. Spitzer in the federal investigation of the escort service he used) and the self-described madam who ran that escort service and now claims she’s going to run against her former customer, the stage is set for a summer of farce. ..


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/09/opinion/spitzer-redux.html...
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We have a generation of people who haven't seen any great people in Public office. Who was the last politician who was above it all, who you felt was cared more about America than enriching themselves?
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Obama
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Bwahahahahhahahahaha!
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