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Subject:  Re: Clarify, please? Date:  4/23/1998  8:58 PM
Author:  wshu Number:  4034 of 74752

z3 wrote:
<<(1) Fair enough... although I have not seen nor used the Clik!, the idea of very small, very portable 40MB storage sounds cool. As I understand, IOM did another one of these preannounce-but-don't-deliver things, but hopefully we'll all get a chance to see Clik! up close in the next few months.>>

True. However, Iomega is hardly the only company guilty of vaporware... further, like I mentioned before, I'd much rather Iomega take the time to get it right instead of having to go through the embarrassment and expense of recalling everything.

<<(2) Fair enough again, but I'd still have to say that oustanding lawsuits can be a serious potential problem. Didn't Nomai also win the lawsuit/rights to mfg. Zip comaptible disks? After all, this is where IOM will make the killing - selling lots of media, and not just the drives...>>

Well, the class actions are IMO not going to be a serious problem even if Iomega loses or settles. As to Nomai... the litigation is still ongoing, they've won nothing yet AFAIK. However, the average user doesn't want to take the time to educate himself about alternatives from the standard (witness the really, really hard time Cyrix and AMD had in trying to gain mainstream acceptance, which they're only *starting* to get), and if Iomega wanted to do so, just a teensy little bit of FUD can scuttle mainstream acceptance of Nomai disks. Y'know... writing in big bold letters that using non-certified Zip disks (Iomega and licensees, etc) such as Nomai will void their warranty, etc etc. Either way, I don't think that Iomega has that much to fear from Nomai if they play their cards right. Nomai's French, after all - when have the French ever done anything right ;)?

<<(3) Here I disagree a bit. Back in the "old" days of DOS and the Mac, you used to be able to boot and use your computer off a floppy. Today's that's no longer really the case, even with the 100MB disks. In addition, with the proliferation of CD-quality audio, video clips, etc. off the Internet, storage requirements are simply going to shoot through the roof. Look at it as a percentage to today's largest hard disks... now you can get a computer with a 16.8GB disk. You would need 170 ZIP disks to back up your hard drive, roughly the equivalent of 170 old HD disks to back up those old "huge" 250 MB drives that used to ship with 486 machines. >>

Heh. I can still remember thinking the 60MB that came with my old 386 was a lot. Now I have more RAM than that... wow.

<<<grin> We may not need the space now, but I guarantee we will want the space in the near future.>>

Oh, c'mon. I see your point, but I think you're stretching it just a tad. Sure, you can get a 16.8 gig HD - how much of it is used? My bro's 8 gig is more than 3/4 empty.

Now, don't get me wrong - I'm not disagreeing that storage requirements aren't skyrocketing, nor am I disagreeing that large-scale removable storage capacity needs to be boosted up. What I'm saying is that as a floppy replacement, and as a small-scale removable storage device, the Zip has hardly seen its proverbial 15 minutes.

I agree that the days of needing to be able to boot your computer off a floppy are over - who would agree? However, that's not the point. I use floppies to transport files from my computer to others that I need the files on. Why would I want to transport my entire hard drive? No one I know of is *that* paranoid.

<<I do have to admit that I recently bought a SparQ 1GB drive and love it. It is extremely fast (a bit slower than hard disk) but very transportable and very large. You can easily back up large chunks of CD programs, audio files, etc. etc., and the cost is right! You have a point that there is a large ZIP installed base... however, there is a MUCH larger installed base of 1.44MB floppy drives, and are many people still using them?>>

Can't respond about SparQ, haven't heard many bad things about it, but either way, if you dropped your SparQ cartridge onto a hardwood floor, are you still confident that you can use it? I'm fairly confident in my Zips. I'm not about to drop one to test it, mind you, but I'm still confident.

As to the 1.44 floppies... people who don't use them don't because they suck. They are woefully slow and inadequate. But... are you out of your mind when you say no one uses them anymore? Everyone I know of uses them even if we curse them for being the pieces o' crap they are.

In the meantime, you have the Zip base. You are planning on buying a large-cap floppy because you need to exchange files with your coworkers. What are they likely to have? Unless they work in the SyQuest HQ, Zips =p. What therefore becomes your primary concern? Getting all of your coworkers to swap to the SparQ, or just buying a Zip yourself? This is, in addition to my concerns of dropping a SparQ cartridge and a Zip disk.

<<Because of these opinions above, I think...>>

<<(4) The Jaz2 product will be very important to IOM's future profitability. Here I need more information and clarity, but I see the cost and SCSI interface and the media cost to be serious issues! (Someone misposted that a 3-pack was $150. In fact, a SINGLE cartridge runs about $150, and a THREE pack will cost $400!!!) Who's going to pay that kind of premium?!>>

SCSI interface is a necesary evil if you're demanding real throughput. A PP drive sucks. As to price... I have no idea. Anyone else care to comment?

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