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Subject:  Re: If only Date:  11/1/2013  8:31 PM
Author:  rclaussen Number:  1908459 of 2381068

Hi Colovion,

“The ones used to neutralize the shooter sure did. I don't think they threatened to pelt him with marshmallows until he stopped shooting...

Repeat after me: The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. LAX is Exhibit A, if you want.”

And Exhibit B is the School Secretary who, although she did not have marshmallows at the time, improvised and used her words to stop a shooter:

http://www.gadailynews.com/news/171293-michael-brandon-hill-... Michael Brandon Hill: Atlanta school shooter stopped by secretary Antoinette Tuff

By the way if the ,,, only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.” were true, then why did Exhibit A not work at the Navy Yard? or Columbine? before someone other than the shooter died?

A woman and others stopped this shooter:

“Loughner stopped to reload, but dropped the loaded magazine from his pocket to the sidewalk, from where bystander Patricia Maisch grabbed it.[25] Another bystander clubbed the back of the assailant's head with a folding chair, injuring his elbow in the process, representing the 14th injury.[26] Loughner was tackled to the ground by 74-year-old retired United States Army Colonel Bill Badger,[27] who had been shot himself [emphasis added], and was further subdued by Maisch and bystanders Roger Sulzgeber and Joseph Zamudio. Zamudio was a CCW holder and had a weapon on his person, but arrived after the shooting had stopped and did not draw his firearm.[28] Zamudio later stated that he initially mistook the identity of the shooter and had considered drawing his weapon before realizing that individual was not the shooter.[29]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Tucson_shooting 2011 Tucson shooting

The last sentence in the above quote should give one pause. Fortunately Zamudio had the sense to stop and think before pulling his weapon. Had he not taken that split second others, including him (a bystander mistaken for a second shooter), could have been killed.

There are many ways to stop shooters.

Unfortunately, the possession of guns can lead to tragic incidents when those in possession of the weapon decide to use it to take out their anger over a perceived infringement of their space:

“While his girlfriend was inside the store, Dunn asked the teens to turn down the loud music they were playing, cops said.

Davis said something back and there was a heated exchange, authorities said.

Dunn then pulled a gun and fired at least eight shots, hitting Davis twice, cops told the Sentinel.

Dunn and his girlfriend then left the scene.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-shoots-teen-lou... Florida man shoots and kills 17-year-old teen after argument over loud music at gas station

What I find striking about this account is the shooter showed no concern he had taken the life of another - over what he perceived to be load music and the music was not going to bother him after his girlfriend returned and they left!

There are many ways to stop shooters.

Until we as a nation decide to address the issue of allowing individuals with weapons which encourage them to take out their emotions with tragic consequences, we will continue to see a wild west mentality with victims and their families suffering the results. If Mr. Dunn only had marshmallows this would be a non-event. The question we must ask ourselves is – When will we decide the senseless killing needs to end?

Bob
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