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Subject:  Re: Venezuela’s Collapse Date:  5/19/2019  2:01 PM
Author:  tamhas Number:  114432 of 116598

Who is actually arguing in favor of socialism? The most I see are people who are in favor of particular programs which might be characterized as socialist, just like there are many programs now in the US which are ultimately socialist. If you don't agree with a particular existing or proposed program, say so; don't tilt at some fictional socialist windmill like anyone was actually advocating that.

Moreover, citing Venezuela as an example of socialism failing is a far, far bigger distortion than pointing at limitations in Scandinavian socialist programs as evidence of why they aren't evidence that one can have more socialism than we do and still function ... and even have people happy about it. A strong man government is simply not an example of a socialist government and how it doesn't work.
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