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Subject:  Re: Is it possible ... Date:  11/19/2019  5:34 PM
Author:  warrl Number:  882954 of 885855

If there was ever a quid pro quo, that would seem to be a textbook example, not this silly Ukraine nonsense.

The "quid pro quo" fuss is definitely nonsense, as that's actually the normal way of doing business... if you buy groceries you have a quid pro quo arrangement with the grocer - you take food from them and in exchange you give them money.

The question is: does the quo serve the interests of those who are actually paying the quid?

It does not matter if the transaction also serves other interests. Particularly not if it serves other interests by making the people who do it look good politically. In theory, doing what's right and doing what's good for the country will look better politically than doing what's wrong or bad for the country... so to avoid "quid pro quo" accusations, politicians should deliberately and systematically do bad things and damage the country, right?

(Actually, that would explain a lot...)

Rooting out corruption in Ukraine is good for Ukraine and the honest people thereof; if corruption in Ukraine laps over into corruption in the US, then rooting it out in the US is likewise good for the US. Yeah, it looked likely that IF the investigation went on it would implicate one of Trump's major political rivals, and thus benefit Trump - so what?

Preventing such rooting out is not good for either Ukraine or the US. Biden wanted it prevented, and CLAIMS to have used quid-pro-quo with US taxpayers paying the quid. (He's definitely got some details wrong; whether his overall story is substantially correct is less than perfectly clear but there's significant supporting evidence for it).
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