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The US has also attempted to push for a global ban on therapeutic cloning (and thus on much of the most promising stem cell medicine) at the United Nations - fortunately, this initiative was defeated in late 2004. Meanwhile, lesser indignities have been taking place. For example, Food and Drug Administration actions forced continuing trials of a demonstrably successful stem cell therapy for heart disease and damage to take place outside the US until early 2004...responsibility extends to telling our elected representatives that what they are doing is wrong and immoral. It will lead to millions of completely avoidable deaths as the years of delay and legislative battles pass by...


http://www.longevitymeme.org/topics/stem_cells_and_regenerative_medicine.cfm
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It will lead to millions of completely avoidable deaths as the years of delay and legislative battles pass by...


And how many lawsuits are going on due to the couple of drugs that were rushed through FDA approval the last few years?

stem cell therapy is so far off into the future we will not see results in our lifetime .... and the Lib's want to cut the profits of the Pharma companies .... so who will pay for it?

Cant have your cells and tax them too

Bears
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stem cell therapy is so far off into the future we will not see results in our lifetime .... and the Lib's want to cut the profits of the Pharma companies .... so who will pay for it?


Hey ostrich boy, stem cell therapy is already happening. Just not in the US. I thought you dispised ignorance?

~j

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/science/20060213-0926-healinghearts.html
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Bears, you need help in learning how to google?

Here's a starter page for you on stem cells. ~j

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=stem+cells+heart
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I thought you dispised ignorance?

The story is about Adult Stem Cells.

I don't think that research involving adult stem cells has been hampered at all in the US.
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Bears, you need help in learning how to ogle?


Republicans are unsatisfactory males in every respect, Julie.



CF
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I don't think that research involving adult stem cells has been hampered at all in the US.


EricT, you can always be counted on to state you opinion and actually have nothing in the way of a link to even support it. You are wrong, again.

It is totally hampered in the US and that is why people are flying to foreign countries to get the stem cell therapies.

Bush put the kabash on decent stem cell research years ago. Go look at some stock charts of budding stem cell companies from say the year 2000. I think Bush made a definite stance against it around 2001-2 ~j
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Republicans are unsatisfactory males in every respect, Julie.

CF

Not true, Charles. They are good in bed ;-) ~j

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EricT, you can always be counted on to state you opinion and actually have nothing in the way of a link to even support it. You are wrong, again.


I was pretty sure that your post would be rich with links. Or else you would risk being the stupid hypocrite of the day. Congrats, you are off to an early lead.

http://www.tommyduggan.com/VP090104scell.html

In 2001 the federal government spent $0 on human embryonic stem cell research. But in 2002, President Bush spent more than $10.7 million for the research and in 2003 he increased that spending to $24.8 million. This is a far cry from Kerry and the media's claim that he “banned” the research altogether.



In all other categories of stem cell research President Bush has also increased federal funding. Human non-embryonic stem cell research was increased from $151.6 million in 2001 to $170.9 million in 20002 and then increased that funding again in 2003 to $190.7 million. Non Human embryonic research was increased by the president in 2001 from $40.5 million to $71.5 million (in 2002), and then increased again by Bush to 192.1 million in 2003.

Non-Human, non-embryonic stem cell research increased under President Bush from $113.9 million (in 2001) to $134.0 million (in 2003) and then again to $192.1 million in 2003.This doesn't include the millions of dollars being spent by the private sector.

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Not true, Charles. They are good in bed ;-) ~j

It's easier to toss a hot water bottle out of the bed, Julie.



CF
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Bears, you need help in learning how to google?

Here's a starter page for you on stem cells. ~j


Oh Man .... Google for stem Cell info ...

Go Google some wrinkle cream...

Of course you are going to get every hype "lets make you feel good" article that hopes to sell a newspaper or dupe a Liberal.

Most of the "few" studies are very small, 10-30 patients

One in Thailand that involving U.S. patients did report a fair EF increase (which a good attitude and a month of exercise will also do) but the papers didnyt point out that all the participants were heavy smokers. Sorry, everyone knows that quitting smoking is the best treatment for heart failure.

EF increases from 37 to 47 are good, but is it stem cells, exercise, Coreg or a new burst of hope?

The first couple US studies are just starting now, and even those physicians are speaking in terms of 10-25 years before they know the value of Stem cells, and that is in Hearts. Brain, Cancer, immune system ... just scratching the surface


There are a couple facts on damaged hearts

(1) you have a Heart Attack, the tissue is irritated and O2 starved, they estimate up to 95 percent of the cells will perish before they can do a patient any good due to antibodies and status of the site.

(2) The Site of the MI is dead tissue which will turn to scar tissue

(3) Once that ticker stops pumping, you only have a couple min to get it restarted.

(4) Almost half of the people who have heart attacks die of their first heart attack

(5)One American dies every 30 seconds from heart disease. That's more than 2,600 people per day. That is about 1 million a year.

At least 250,000 of those people will die of heart attacks before they reach a hospital.


Stem Cells? First you need to make it through the ER by not ignoring the symptoms, The doctors not killing you and your body not giving up.
Bears
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Ok bears, so you don't know how to actually use the google for news, but u do know how to do it for wrinkle cream. All is well.

Hey you should check out the USA board, its proof positive that stem cell research is alive and thriving.... elsehwere.

~j
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Hey you should check out the USA board, its proof positive that stem cell research is alive and thriving.... elsehwere.

~j



You mean the Korean researcher who was exposed as faking all his "Super Duper" Stem Cell research?

Always remember all the people who raced to Mexico for Cancer treatments.

Medical treatments are slow and methodical in coming, you don't just grab a mess of your stem cells and inject them, your body will still reject them without the correct Gene instructions to key them .

Some day they will do wonders with them

Buy man still fights the common Cold

Liberal's are always believing in the Quick Fix and the Government Conspiracy that prevents it from happening.

Look ... Over there .... It's a Bird ...Its a Plane ... No ... It's a Black Ops Helicopter !

Bears :)
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Look ... Over there .... It's a Bird ...Its a Plane ... No ... It's a Black Ops Helicopter !

Bears :)


Oh, you're such the little hysteric! ~j



Here's a hi-rec'ed post example of the USA board. You'd fit right in ;-)

http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=23697519
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Here's a hi-rec'ed post example of the USA board. You'd fit right in ;-)

http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=23697519



Thanks for the link to the test, Julie.
Apparently, I'm a Devoted Lover.



Pretty boring, huh?


CF
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Thanks for the link to the test, Julie.
Apparently, I'm a Devoted Lover.

Pretty boring, huh?
CF


That sounds very sweet. However NEVER use the "B"* word at USA. ~j

*=boring
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