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And do a backdoor conversion for company match, which will be credited as a traditional IRA.

Sorry - there's no such thing as a 'backdoor conversion for company match' - it's a straight up conversion from the 401(k) to a Roth IRA.

Backdoor conversions are when non-deductible contributions in a Traditional IRA are converted to a Roth IRA, and work best if you have no other Traditional IRAs, so you don't get hit by the pro-rata rule. One way to have no other Traditional IRAs is to keep all of your Traditional money in an employer's plan, if you don't want to spend the taxes to do a conversion. So that's actually a good reason to roll from one 401(k) to another 401(k).

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