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and the first two are the same incident

Are you saying that Tim Devine and Peter Kleis were the same person, and that they died twice (once in January 2015 and again in June 2015)?

I certainly have no insights into the full circumstances around those deaths, and certainly a vehicular suicide would be almost fully independent of the type of vehicle (other than the very tangential aspects of maybe emotional or financial stressors associated with the vehicle purchase and the person's overall financial situation).

I have observed that many pro-Tesla folks have tried to create a straw man that this listing was supposedly all auto pilot-related, which is not what the list is attempting to portray. I grant that the slab of concrete instance is not at all something that would be the fault of the type of vehicle, and I might even put in a suggestion to @ElonBachman that that listing be removed as it takes away from the overall point/theme of the listing.


2015 25-Jun-15 USA HI Tesla drives off cliff 1 1 - - - 1
Tim Devine

2015 22-Jan-15 USA CA Tesla drives off cliff 1 1 - - - 1 S
Peter Kleis

2014 30-Dec-14 USA CA Tesla drives off cliff 1 1 - - - 1
Louis Francis Thoelecke
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