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And they do not beat the indices.

It is possible to do quite well (OK, I did this some years ago, and I assume it is still possible) by trading mutual funds. I used a simple relative strength model. However, the fund managers hate this because they want you always to be in their fund. So they make it difficult for you if you do this. I always held for 30-40 days unless there was a general market sell signal. But they were still not happy.

When the market is doing well, it is hard to beat the small caps and the Nasdaq. So IWM and QQQ are good bets. And they are traded like stocks, so no fund manager is going to be upset.

Of course, you can do better trading stocks if you know what you are doing.
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