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By exaggerating...

Exaggeration? After rioters stormed the Capitol building Trump praised their actions. The FBI has documented over 200 times insurrectionists in the Capitol building shouting "Get Pence!" "Hang Pence!"
What did Trump say about these rioters?
"We just love these people"
"We love you, you're very special."
Trump

Now talk about exaggeration? How about Republicans who say there wasn't anything wrong about peaceful rioters storming the Capitol building....
Actually... it never happened...
Ahhhhh...
Oh Actually it was Antfa
No... wait... Trump is the President... people have been to the White House and Biden's not there... Trump's in the Oval Office running the government.

Now... explain how I'm the one who's exaggerating events
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The constitution is not a infallible, it has mistakes and oversights. Why would you need a process to amend it, if it were perfect. Why do we have amendments?

She does have a point that slavery considerations were woven into the constitution. Slaves were initially considered as counting to the general population, then by amendment 3/5 and then by amendment allowed a full vote. Remember, all this happened under the watch of people who had sworn an oath to uphold the constitution, these people went and changed it!

Just because you disagree with aspects of the constitution, does not mean that you will not abide by the constitution. By this I mean working within the constitutional guidelines to correct what you believe is wrong. Inciting a riot to change the constitution by undemocratic means would be wrong.
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"(America's Founders)...weaved white supremacy” into “founding documents and principles,” thus “we are an imperfect union and have been since the beginning.”


Actually a true statement.

Slavery was normalized in the Constitution’s specification of proper way to count population of states.
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to take an oath of office, with his hand raised and the other on a bible, swore to uphold the Constitution against all enemies...

Then, call for an insurrection, charge insurrectionist with the entitlement of destroying the state certified Presidential election, then commanding insurrectionist to take the live Senate by force, with a Presidential order to hang the Vice president by the neck until dead.
For Republicans of course this is how you run free and fair insurrections.
Come on man... Republicans don't believe in upholding the constitution
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The constitution is not a infallible, it has mistakes and oversights. Why would you need a process to amend it, if it were perfect. Why do we have amendments?

The framers knew there would be future corrections as values evolved. For example, slavery was a common worldwide institution in the mid 18th century, with each independent and colonized country having its own slavery laws. (See the World Slavery History wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery).

Pointing at this as some kind of a moral shortcoming would be like 23 century populist values pointing at owning animals as pets in the 21st century as a moral failure of humankind, particularly of the United States.

Focusing on what the Constitutional framers 'wove' into the constitution and labeling them as though they knowingly wrote it last week while skipping over or ignoring the strength and fundamental principal qualities of the document, is myopic, self-serving and ignorant.

The core of the Constitution and its Amendments, for those who genuinely wish to understand it, is that it recognizes it is not nor ever will be perfect. But its call to all future Americans is to make it MORE PERFECT, something seemingly lost on Thomas-Greenfield, who, I'm sure if it were up to her, would burn it and make publishing it a crime.

BruceM
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then commanding insurrectionist to take the live Senate by force, with a Presidential order to hang the Vice president by the neck until dead. - Tucsonloon

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Like I said before,

"The liberal exaggerations and distortions become more extreme with each iteration. A sort of psychotic feedback loop. "

https://boards.fool.com/yeah-speeches-calling-for-an-insurre...

Here is an example of Liberal logic

"Peacefully and Patriotically make your voices heard".... Donald Trump inciting a riot

"Get more confrontational"... Maxine Waters pioneering a movement
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Then, call for an insurrection, charge insurrectionist with the entitlement of destroying the state certified Presidential election, then commanding insurrectionist to take the live Senate by force, with a Presidential order to hang the Vice president by the neck until dead.
For Republicans of course this is how you run free and fair insurrections.
Come on man... Republicans don't believe in upholding the constitution


By exaggerating, you destroyed the valid point you were trying to make.
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The first and most glaring inconsistency, is this woman had to take an oath of office, with her hand raised and the other on a bible, swore to uphold the Constitution against all enemies, along with the phrase '...I take this obligation freely without mental reservation or purpose of evasion” followed by swearing she would “well and faithfully discharge the duties” of office.
The oath ends, “so help me, God.”

Ok...so we've got a moron from the pit of Biden selectees who clearly lied as she has no intention of honoring the Constitution, but instead intends to degrade it to the best of her ability

So where is the lie and how is she going to do these fiendish things?

I strongly suggest that you listen to her whole speech to put your quote in context
https://twitter.com/i/status/1382388222819459074
The thrust of the message being that the US cannot have the moral authority to dictate to other countries, unless we are actively trying to form a "More Perfect Union" and correct our own problems.
I think all valid comment and the nature of politics is that we bring our own agenda to the job. Do you believe that Kelly Craft swore the oath with no mental reservation or purpose of evasion. I do. But the agenda was obvious.
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unless we are actively trying to form a "More Perfect Union" and correct our own problems. - BobsDonuts

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This sounds like she sees this as a program that we are just now undertaking. We have been working on a more equal and just society ever since the civil war.

There has been tremendous progress made which is never acknowledged by the libs and the MSM. This is a great country and certainly is not a racist country. There are areas that still need to be worked on and there always will be, but to proclaim systemic racism rules the land is disrespectful of the progress achieved by the entire civil rights movement. And teaching our kids to hate their country and to hate themselves is just plain evil.
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but to proclaim systemic racism rules the land is disrespectful

And to insist that the only way to fight systemic racism is to embed race-based rules and attitudes in the system is completely illogical.
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You should watch the video clip of her entire speech.
It may save you some time
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By exaggerating...

Exaggeration? After rioters stormed the Capitol building Trump praised their actions. The FBI has documented over 200 times insurrectionists in the Capitol building shouting "Get Pence!" "Hang Pence!"
What did Trump say about these rioters?
"We just love these people"
"We love you, you're very special."
Trump

Now talk about exaggeration? How about Republicans who say there wasn't anything wrong about peaceful rioters storming the Capitol building....
Actually... it never happened...
Ahhhhh...
Oh Actually it was Antfa
No... wait... Trump is the President... people have been to the White House and Biden's not there... Trump's in the Oval Office running the government.

Now... explain how I'm the one who's exaggerating events
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This sounds like she sees this as a program that we are just now undertaking. We have been working on a more equal and just society ever since the civil war.

There has been tremendous progress made which is never acknowledged by the libs and the MSM. This is a great country and certainly is not a racist country.

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Your statements are naive and wrong! You must live in isolation and get all your news from Fox.

There is systemic racism in America which has not been eliminated with the progress made in the last 160 years. We still have white supremacists waging war on our constitution and laws. We still have white cops murdering blacks when no one is looking and claiming they died of natural causes. We still condone redlining. We still have unequal opportunities for brown and black people. We still have Asians and other minorities beaten up by so called white law abiding citizens. We have idiots like Trump strutting around and falsely claiming he won the election.
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