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Susan Crabtree explores the Independant California Redistricting process to examine the purported goal of a political redistricting.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/12/09/in_cal...
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Gerrymandering by any other name remains gerrymandering.

Howie52
Politicians fixing the books makes the books always fixed in favor of incumbents.
Until the people get sick and tired of the same old results - when the incumbents begin to
cast doubts on the ability of people to vote.
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I can get behind this.

Gerrymandering, whether in Texas or California, is simply wrong.

But lets not pose this as a moral equivalence in terms of the number of states that engage in it, or the truly egregious examples to which we can point.

It’s simply, flat out, wrong.

Wherever it occurs.
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I can get behind this.

Gerrymandering, whether in Texas or California, is simply wrong.

But lets not pose this as a moral equivalence in terms of the number of states that engage in it, or the truly egregious examples to which we can point.

It’s simply, flat out, wrong.

Wherever it occurs.


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Wrong, wherever it occurs. I agree with that. With any change there will be winners and there will be losers and the losers will always claim gerrymandering.

What sort of process could be employed to rule out that claim? Perhaps some limits on geometry that would rule out those amoeba shaped districts. Require all districts to be rectangular with the long side no greater than 2x the short side, or something like that. Even if something could work at the state level, there are still issues with city council districts and country government districts.

Entrenched politicians would probably still figure out ways to exploit anyway.
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What sort of process could be employed to rule out that claim? Perhaps some limits on geometry that would rule out those amoeba shaped districts. Require all districts to be rectangular with the long side no greater than 2x the short side, or something like that. Even if something could work at the state level, there are still issues with city council districts and country government districts.

Entrenched politicians would probably still figure out ways to exploit anyway.


The cries about Gerrymandering are hollow coming from the left. Why? Because if the districts are drawn by geography - as they should be - then you'd see a lot of the Congressional Black Caucus vaporized.

Can't have the most partisan group in all of Congress be replaced by Republicans, can we?

When democrats do this sort of thing it's always due to the 'will of the people'. When Republicans do it it's for naked partisan reasons.
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