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I suppose the neurological exam was something you got from the NYT.

DIY medicine. Enough of this and we can kill off the whole country.

Nancy
What if DH was home alone? Should he still try the butterfly stitches and read the neurological exam?
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I have been developing my own strain of antibiotics, so the need for any medical services will be eliminated entirely. I am not sure which mold strain to use as there are things in the fridge with green, blue-green, fuzzy white, and red colored colonies.

Also, there's a reason Urgent Care centers exist: for non-life-threatening conditions that need immediate care. That's a lot cheaper than the emergency room and if you have insurance may just be a $50-100 copay.

There is penny wise and pound foolish. Things that I never minimize when it comes to medical care: anything to do with your eyes (injury, infection, sudden changes) and head injuries. The consequences of missing something can be dire (loss of vision, untreated brain trauma).
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There is penny wise and pound foolish. Things that I never minimize when it comes to medical care: anything to do with your eyes (injury, infection, sudden changes) and head injuries. The consequences of missing something can be dire (loss of vision, untreated brain trauma).

Back in January 2011 I was diagnosed with bursitis, and was given an appointment with a specialist who would set up a physical therapy prescription. The specialist looked at my x-rays, looked at my shoulder and ordered me off to the emergency room because I actually had a very badly infected shoulder, and I needed surgery to prevent further damage. My only symptom was pain. (Well, pain and the lump in my shoulder, which the doctor at the clinic diagnosed as bursitis, but which turned out to be the end of my arm bone, which was dislocated).

Pain is there for a reason. It's to tell you that something's wrong and needs to be fixed. I have regular pain that is controllable with a combination of OTC and prescribed medicine. If something else starts hurting I know when to go to the doctor.

And yes, fluctuations in sight, or head injuries can be extremely dangerous. I'm not sure that some butterfly stitches and reading a DIY neurology exam is always the best way to go.

Nancy
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And yes, fluctuations in sight, or head injuries can be extremely dangerous. I'm not sure that some butterfly stitches and reading a DIY neurology exam is always the best way to go.

I don't remember if I ever mentioned it, but back in 2007 DD#1 woke up one morning and had lost the sight in one eye. She went in to see a doctor who told her that it was an inflammation of the ocular nerve. Essentially, it was her first early onset symptom of MS. Fortunately, she hasn't had many other symptoms over the past few years, but given that there is a family history of it on her dad's side of the family, it gave her enough of a heads up to not take any change in her health for granted.

LWW
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I don't remember if I ever mentioned it, but back in 2007 DD#1 woke up one morning and had lost the sight in one eye. She went in to see a doctor who told her that it was an inflammation of the ocular nerve. Essentially, it was her first early onset symptom of MS.

I am so sorry; I don't think I've seen her diagnosis mentioned but I probably just missed your post. That was how my mother discovered she had it also. I hope she continues to experience very few symptoms.

Minxie
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DIY medicine. Enough of this and we can kill off the whole country.

Death from iatrogenic causes: third leading cause of death in the US. Not to mention all the other problems caused by treatment. There are good arguments on both sides of this question.

-IGU-
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DIY medicine. Enough of this and we can kill off the whole country...... vs Death from iatrogenic causes: third leading cause of death in the US. Not to mention all the other problems caused by treatment. There are good arguments on both sides of this question.

There certainly are good arguments but the language that some self-inflated superior beings use when they know they are right and everyone else is just so wrong is unbelievable.

This site http://www.skepticalob.com/ was linked to with stats on the safety of homebirth - I have no criticism of the poster that linked to it, it was only linked to for the stats report.

As always when introduced to a new site, I read a little of it, in this case with growing astonishment, what got up my nose was the appalling tone of the site itself because it comes from someone who should help you celebrate the emergence of new life. Instead it's a constant stream if spleen-venting with added bile.
"In my efforts to expose American homebirth midwives as woefully ignorant fools ..." and another "Is anyone really so stupid that they could believe this? From the festival of ignorance known as Mothering.com, comes this" there's vitriol and insult aplenty on every page.

What a dreadful attitude, assuming that someone who thinks differently to you is beneath your contempt because you 'KNOW' so therefore they must be stupid. I find people whose tone is like this abhorrent, they do nothing to help anyone with their sneering and should be held down and forcibly vaccinated with kindness, compassion, empathy, understanding, tolerance and acceptance that other people think differently and those peoples' views are just as valid as their own.

There are more than two sides to every healthcare issue, right and wrong aren't the only choices, but the site's author telling people they are plainly wrong, belittling them because their intelligence is obviously so much lower than hers, and insulting them in every paragraph with poisonous rhetoric serves no purpose whatsoever. If you had a question on homebirth or any obgyn issue, that site could well have an informative answer, but who would ever ask if they undoubtedly were to be subjected to a torrent of abuse, sarcasm and belittlement in every sentence.

"She left the practice of medicine to raise her four children"
I feel so sorry for those children raised by a parent who has so many essential character defects and zero generosity of spirit.

Rune
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that other people think differently and those peoples' views are just as valid as their own.
Sometimes yes, but no - not all views are equally valid. Sometimes people think reprehensible things - or are frankly just wrong about something that is fact-based.

Respect for someone's humanity doesn't mean you have to respect their views.
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That was how my mother discovered she had it also. I hope she continues to experience very few symptoms.

Minxie, so far she has been blessed with very few symptoms. Occasional tingling/numbness in her hands and feet have been the worst thing she's had to deal with since her sight came back a couple of weeks after that first attack.

LWW
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