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Don't struggle with gift ideas... pawn that job off to your kids! Ask them to come up with wish lists, the longer the better. That way you can choose a few items and they won't know which ones you decided on.
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Mine are a couple years behind that, but they have actually asked for clothes. FirstLock still fits into a lot of his clothes from middle school, so Mrs. Lock has been buying him t-shirts that are more sports/college/high school oriented and less super heroes and Mickey Mouse.

FirstLock wants a wireless x-box controller with a charging stand.

Owlboy wants a phone. He'll get one, but no service so it will only work around our house with wifi. He is always borrowing ours to make movies/puppet shows.

As an off hand thought. If you do allowances, you can give them a pre-paid debit card and then put their allowance on that. That works well for ours, since they spend a lot of their money on computer shopping so I do not have to put my card in all the time, I just put money on their card. You can load $10 on it and then let them know that any allowance/chore money will go on the card.

Wally
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Something I started around when the kids started to drive and that I still give them every year is a AAA membership. They have both used it when they've been in their own cars as well as when something went wrong when out with friends. And they both use the discounts that come with it. Might be worth a thought, if not now, then perhaps when they are a bit older.
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DD has asked for:

- Taco (top coat) nail polish in a variety of colors (she loves doing her nails)
- Glass nail files (she really loves doing her nails)
- A couple of soft warm blankets
- Apple accessories like a new charger
- gift cards to her favorite places (Starbucks, Sephora, Ulta, Target, Amazon a few others)
- Frozen 2
- Money for her band trip to Hawaii in 2021

Pretty much you'll need to ask them what they want at this age -- they're going to know better than you will guess.

ThyPeace, or just give them money, because at that age it's equivalent to freedom.
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Get them each a leg lamp.




Anything cool I should know about that human children about those ages would like?

If adults know it's cool, it isn't anymore.

At this age it's almost easier to go back to the 4 choice idea, where they kind of have to tell you:
I want- I need
I would wear- I would read

As mentioned by 2G, AAA isn't shiny but because it goes with the-kid-and-not-the-car, can be a great present that you never know when it'll be used.

He drives (her friends drive?)- so gas card, maybe?

So far the best idea my husband has had is to get our oldest a bunch of $10 gift cards to his favorite places,

because we are total dorks, it would be hilarious (to me) to give random value gift cards (unmarked) - to each of them, so they would have no idea.
yeah, maybe the total is still $50 - but the amounts would be $8.73; $2.11; $23.01 etc...*


peace & also, always socks
t









* one can go online and find the value of almost any gift card, so a few minutes with google & he would know, but he'd still have to do a little leg work.
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Actual idea!


If they don't already have power packs for their devices, that might be a good (useful) gift.

Otherwise, no clue.

peace & changes
t
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For the oldest, pornhub has a lifetime membership available.

Just sayin.

RJ - helpful and remembers 17 oh so well
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Don't struggle with gift ideas... pawn that job off to your kids! Ask them to come up with wish lists, the longer the better. That way you can choose a few items and they won't know which ones you decided on.
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For the oldest, pornhub has a lifetime membership available.

Just sayin.

RJ - helpful and remembers 17 oh so well



Deluxe membership comes with case of kleenex.
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Anything cool I should know about that human children about those ages would like?

impolite
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Although it was fun to buy for my children when they were young, it has become tough. I have a 36 year old daughter and 15 year old son. I try to make our gifts "memory-making ones". Tickets to a future baseball game, basketball game. A play. Two years ago I gifted the two of them and son-in-law tickets to a wolf preserve (they had vip passes, stayed all day and played with the wolves, foxes, etc) and the hotel accommodations they needed. Thus, they made a memory.

I have decided on something for my son this year. He was totally impressed when they took a photo of him and orthodontist a few weeks ago when he got his braces off and handed him a piece of white paper that developed into a photo as he watched. So, he is getting a fuji Polaroid camera. I think he will enjoy taking photos, giving them to his friends or putting them on his bulletin board...you know, the old-fashioned way, instead of on your phone where no one sees them.

My daughter is getting him an electric razor.

I'm still working on this year's memory making gifts. My brainstorm better come quickly, with only 15 days to go:)

-Donna
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Although it was fun to buy for my children when they were young, it has become tough.

Thanks everyone for the ideas.

The quoted portion above was the problem I think - in previous years I've just had so much FUN finding them things and this year, I just didn't. Which sucks for me, but has nothing to do with them.

SO ANYWAY, I ended up with:

Oldest: some fitness stuff (because he's a gym rat), coordinated belt/shoes/watch since when he's not in gym shorts he likes to dress well (and this stuff costs WAY more for a human wearing men's clothing than it does for a human wearing little boy clothing), a few smaller items, and a new comforter/sheets that are manly and neutral enough (in a twin XL) he should be able to take it to college with him, if I ever get his stubborn butt to turn in homework and he has a decent enough GPA (test scores are through the roof dang kid) to get in to a good school BUT LET'S WORRY ABOUT THAT LATER SHALL WE?

Her Bootiness: hair dryer/brush doodad she wanted, art supplies, a lamp she was coveting while we shopped for Niece, bunch of small things since she likes quantity at Gifting Events. The lamp is going to delight her, she was really eyeballing it.

We (T and I) still had a really good time shopping for Leroy Jethro, which is why I think I was still struggling with not having fun with the older kids' shopping.

Also of note: T got me two things, but couldn't wait until Xmas for me to open them - he literally ran into the room with the Amazon box, opened it, said these are your Xmas gifts aren't they cool?! One was a dinosaur garden figure that's eating garden gnomes, and one was a quarter keeper for my Aldi's quarter.

And that folks, is how you know you have settled into a comfortable marriage.

impolite
done shopping
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