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Here's my wacky idea for the season. In the spirit of believing in flying fat & bearded men, having a good time and trusting your fellow humans, I'd hereby like to propose a co-housing project (a commune by any other name). Here like-minded FIRE-y people will buy a multi-family building, pool all their resources together, share, barter and LBTM without fear of being laughed or sneered at. And they shall live happily everafter. (I'm getting misty-eyed already...)

I don't see why such a thing cannot be achieved. Given enough creative thinking and people willing to take a chance, I bet there will be a few people *right now* who can FIRE immediately.

Let the brainstorming begin!

-dr.nonlinear-
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>> I don't see why such a thing cannot be achieved. Given enough creative thinking and people willing to take a chance, I bet there will be a few people *right now* who can FIRE immediately. <<

Hey, if it can reach critical mass, maybe it can get group catastrophic health insurance at rates similar to what employers would pay for it, with enough size to have some clout in negotiating rates...which would in turn enable many more folks to FIRE.

Okay, now we're *really* dreaming. :-)

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I don't see why such a thing cannot be achieved. Given enough creative thinking and people willing to take a chance, I bet there will be a few people *right now* who can FIRE immediately.

They have something like this already in Southern CA. It's called "Leisure World" or, as the youngsters call it, "Seizure World."
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There is a guy in Tennessee, STephen Gaskin, (I think "Summerville") that started a farm commune. It was based on LOVE, etc., but the problem was that there were a lot of Hippie types who just wanted to sit around and get high rather than actually having to work. Another words, they were mooches. Even if one didn't have a farm, but just an ordinary house, there are still chores that have to be done, mowing, dishes, laundry, cleaning, etc., and there would be those who would be inclined to take advantage and let others do their share of the work. Soon there would be resentment, anger, and falling apart. Stephen Gaskin's Farm still exists, but in a much modified form. I think individuals actually own the houses and land they live on. Each person who comes to the farm is required to do a certain number of hours of work every day. They produce tofu, nutritional yeast, and other "farm" products. They also do a lot of benevolent work in underdeveloped third world countries. Stephen Gaskin is very active in the Green Party, and ran against that Lawyer dude who was their candidate in the primary. I know all this because my sister's husband is a member of the Green Party and the delegate from Athens, GA. Coming from Athens, GA I've been thouroughly exposed to the Hippie Lifestyle. You've always got those lazy slackers who just want to mooch, hang out, and just get high. - Art
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Some of the "simple living folk were going to do something like this in Loudoun County VA. Sharing cars, childcare and kitchens, and I don't know what else. Don't know what happened to it, but the way land and housing prices have been skyrocketing around here, I would imagine that the costs got beyond their reach.

arrete - who definitely doesn't want to stand in line to pee.
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arrete - who definitely doesn't want to stand in line to pee

But I thought women always had to stand in line to pee... Or at least that's what my wife always tells me. <grin>
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arrete - who definitely doesn't want to stand in line to pee

Where I live you can go outside and pee anywhere you want! Just pick a tree, any tree. We've only got one bathroom - when my wife is in the restroom, I just head out the door. No problem! - Art
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A friend of mine actually spent some time on Gaskin's Farm, and might be there still -- but they didn't let women drive tractors.
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Where I live you can go outside and pee anywhere you want! Just pick a tree, any tree. We've only got one bathroom - when my wife is in the restroom, I just head out the door. No problem! - Art

It's easier for guys!! "Ladies" have to squat, thereby inviting being nosed by the local cat, dog, raccoon, badger...

I used to do running races before arthritis caught up with me. The line to the men's room took forever. Heaven knows what they were doing in there. Sometime the lines for everyone were so bad, my friend and I took advantage of the local underbrush near the cherry trees - probably where many of you have picnicked during the Cherry tree festival in DC! Don't worry - many animals used it before we did.

arrete - back to nature, or is this bathroom jokes?
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drnonlinear has an idea:

Here's my wacky idea for the season. In the spirit of believing in flying fat & bearded men, having a good time and trusting your fellow humans, I'd hereby like to propose a co-housing project (a commune by any other name).

I don't think this is going to get off the ground, dr. non. The very first decision we'd have to make is whether to buy or rent the house....

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Here in Arizona we have several retirement communities that are all of the sudden attracting my 50 something friends who want to control their expenses and plan for, or enjoy early retirement in a place with lots of things to do and reasonable, predictable expenses. There is a range of costs for housing from mobile homes to huge expensive homes. There are 5 country clubs with reasonably priced golf courses. College classes, Italian clubs, Irish clubs, theatre clubs, bars, resturants, weekly buses to Mexico to purchase cheap medicine and dental work, buses to casinos, bridge, pools, biking, investment clubs, etc. The neighborhood emotional or physical support in this community of 15,000 just south of us is astounding. The downside is there are a lot of people with too much time on their hands who will drive you crazy making sure you are complying with the covenants, that the cable company is only carrying appropriate stations at a reasonable cost, that the garbage people are not wasting their time, etc. etc. There are certainly tradeoffs to live in this type of community, but I have seen MANY people who have moved to this type of environment and were able to live comfortably within a very reasonable budget and had plenty to keep them amused and stimulated. I believe my dad might have lived many years longer had he been in a place that provided this much opportunity for education, stimulation and fun company. The average age in Sun Lakes, AZ, I believe, is dropping dramatically as the boomers retire early or prepare to retire early and move there. We might be wise to invest in some of these communities. They appear to becoming very popular.
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I'd hereby like to propose a co-housing project (a commune by any other name). Here like-minded FIRE-y people will buy a multi-family building,

No, thanks. Sounds too much like an apartment complex. I like to have my own space, and my own garden. Having good neighbors to barter with would be great, though.
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PK227 has in interesting post about a retirement community, where:

The downside is there are a lot of people with too much time on their hands who will drive you crazy making sure you are complying with the covenants


Yikes, no thanks. I get enough of that at work.

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there are a lot of people with too much time on their hands

At "Seizure World" that I previously mentioned, my resident friend says it's like Peyton Place over there--the married guy in Unit A is having an affair with the widow in Unit B and Unit C, and so on. I guess one never gets too old for that.
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Art said,

Where I live you can go outside and pee anywhere you want! Just pick a tree, any tree. We've only got one bathroom - when my wife is in the restroom, I just head out the door. No problem! - Art

That was one of the criteria in purchasing my house in the city limits. I have to be able to walk out my back door and if desired, have the space to pee in privacy. Not that I do this on a regular basis, but, if I want to, I can. Ah, the joy of living.
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